Glen Querl

[morgieb]

Is he good enough for Zimbabwe?

Basically, he went to England, and played OK in the OD comp over there, but wasn't anywhere near world beating.

Now, he's taken two 6-fers in his first 2 FC games. Does that say more about Zimbabwe's depth, or is he actually a secret gun?

[brmtaylor.com admin]

I think it highlights the difference between the domestic leagues in England and Zimbabwe. Querl isn't the first player to have been just okay in England to come to Zimbabwe and play like a world beater

Probably we will know more when he starts bowling to the national team players like Masakadza, Taylor, Taibu, etc.

[FlowerPower]

True that BRMT but he does seem to have something about him. If he does choose Zim I do hope he's not rushed into the fray prematurely like we have done with a now long list of youngsters.

[hhm]

I think some of the responses of the 'blooding in youngsters' thread, are more relevant to this thread so I will comment on them here.

First of all I don't think it's right to talk of the standard of our FC competition and imply bad it is. I'm sure some of the lesser Test nationas have a low standard of competition in the FC competitions as well. This is Zimbabwe, and BRM is right,(assuming you meant that)we cannot compare it to ENG, Aus & SA. We don't have a solid feeder club competition yet, and even if the schools&tertiaries do play, it's not regular enough yet. Our franchise competition is in its third season I think, so the foundations for a better future have been laid. We have got great international coaches who've been around, and the presence of some foreign players augers well. The fact that some of them have come here and 'had it easy' should not distract us from these positives or the longterm goal. Compton - not renowned for being a nutcase - had positive words to say about our FC competition as well as a lot of the players, so our view should likewise be balanced.

While what Vermeulen said has truth in it, and a Mash'land vs Mat'land, or reducing it to 4 teams and factoring in some quotas are welcome ideas, I don't feel we should go on that. The problem is those who plan our local calendar haven't done their best to make sure that it takes place when our international players are involved - perhaps play the lesser important 50-over game on weekends/days when they are away, and mostly fixture the 4-day games(and the T20 which is televised and brings revenue) when they are not committed. I was annoyed when some of them, although not with the national team, were missing during the first rounds of the Logan Cup. Again the national team tends to keep players in camp to idle around as opposed to playing for their francshise and that's because they can't bloody make up their minds about player selection well ahead of time. Forster, Utseya, Mushangwe and Meth should be playing for their Franchises as we speak!

Querl may be taking 9 wickets per match, and Ballance may be racking up hundreds, but so are Mpofu, Waller and if you think back to previous seasons, guys like Taibu & Taylor were doing the same when they were around. I find it unfair for Franchises to 'bid' on players. A committee should allocate top/national players logically and practically (taking into account player circumstances), that way when national team players are away, some level is maintained.

The key is to add an extra franchise, not reduce it. That will make sure that teams are even, and all teams can play games simultaneously, with none of them out of action each time. That's mainly what annoyed that young man so he left - lack of gametime for extended periods. 10 games per side would be an improvement. We are an active Full Member now so we should look to progreess going forward in our FC competition, regardless of the present shortcomings, as opposed pulling back. Afterall, if we are of the reasoning that we are ok for some of our young bright spots to continue to be butchered at international level in the name of learning and development, then as many of these other young players left, who are said to be a 'joke', should also be exposed locally just as much. Once again consistency in reasoning should be maintained! Today Ncube/Mushangwe a 'joke' is playing for Zim, tomorrow Chinouya a joke should also play for Zim, as should Nathan Waller, Mbofana along with many of these guys. Let's not reduce their opportunities, let increase them. If we're 'picking them and maintaining faith on them' on the back of stats achieved under these conditions, then in essence we are saying the standard is ok. Right?

[Jemisi]

Hhm do you mean expansion to 6 teams or protecting the current number of 5 teams?

[FlowerPower]

...Querl may be taking 9 wickets per match, and Ballance may be racking up hundreds, but so are Mpofu, Waller and if you think back to previous seasons, guys like Taibu & Taylor were doing the same when they were around. I find it unfair for Franchises to 'bid' on players. A committee should allocate top/national players logically and practically (taking into account player circumstances), that way when national team players are away, some level is maintained.

Couldn't agree more. Not that I know how NBA drafts work, but I'd like a situation where we say these are our best, openers let each team get a pick, these are our best middle order players let the teams take turns to select, these are our best all rounders, pacemen, left armers, finger spinners, etc, etc. Take into account combinations and home ground conditions etc, etc...

[hhm]

Hhm do you mean expansion to 6 teams or protecting the current number of 5 teams?

Expansion. 6, i.e. one more than 5.

Why be reserved if you're not reserved in your outlook at national level. Give all the young capable youngsters a chance to perform at FC level, and scrap the B league. They can play club cricket while the other players fit into the 6 teams! Waller got his 170+ against these very youngsters, while Jarvis on 8 more games, unlike Querl, is still stuck on a single 5fer against them so the standard is ok! There are plenty of Natha Wallers, Moors and Kaias. Bayhaus did say the attitude of the players is lackadaisical, but that's what we have so we must work with it. In 2-3 years time while our national youngsters are developing, the strength of our national legues will also progress. Right? If wrong then it's wrong both ways.

I seriously believe we shoul dmove to 6 teams.

[Jemisi]

I wasn't sure cause a lot of the others well calling for a reduction.

Don't you worry that 6 will dilute the talent? I'm for the staus quo so long as this practise of having both the internationals and the fringe players missing from FC matches is avoided.