Current Zim team= Current kenya team
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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
Actaully, the 2011 CWC squad of Kenya is way better than that of Zim. Let me explain:
The squads:
Zimbabwe: Elton Chigumbura (captain), Regis Chakabva, Charles Coventry, Graeme Cremer, Craig Ervine, Sean Ervine, Greg Lamb, Shingi Masakadza, Chris Mpofu, Ray Price, Ed Rainsford, Tatenda Taibu, Brendan Taylor, Prosper Utseya, Sean Williams.
Kenya: Jimmy Kamande (capt), Seren Waters, Alex Obanda, David Obuya, Collins Obuya, Steve Tikolo, Tanmay Mishra, Rakep Patel, Maurice Ouma, Thomas Odoyo, Nehemiah Odhiambo, Elijah Otieno, Peter Ongondo, Shem Ngoche, James Ngoche.
Now, for the comparisons:
Jimmy Kamande (1028 runs @ 18.03, Career ODI bowling Average of 44.42) > Prosper Utseya (984 runs @ 15.87, Career ODI bowling average of 46.11)
Tanmay Mishra (Averages 31.73 after 29 ODIs, has bowled 3 deliveries in ODIs) > Charles Coventry (Averages 26.76 after 34 ODIs, has bowled 0 deliveries in ODIs)
James Ngoche (9 matches, 13 wickets @ 18.23; Economy rate: 3.08) > Greg Lamb (9 matches, 8 wickets @ 33.37; Economy rate: 3.98)
We already know this one: Alex Obanda (Career ODI batting average: 34.18) > Brendan Taylor (Career ODI batting average: 32.42)
Collins Obuya (Career ODI batting average: 24.07; Career ODI blowling average Vs. Srilanka: 8.85) > Graeme Cremer (Career ODI batting average: 13.56; Career ODI bowling average Vs. Srilanka: 35.50)
Nehemiah Odhiambo (57 wickets @ 34.29) > Christopher Mpofu (54 wickets @ 37.03)
Thomas Odoyo (Career ODI batting average: 24.12; Career ODI bowling average: 29.66) > Elton Chigumbura (Career ODI batting average: 24.12; Career ODI bowling average: 38.27)
Peter Ongondo (77 wickets @ 29.46) > Ed Rainsford (45 wickets at 31.13)
Elijah Otieno (Career ODI economy rate: 5.87) > Shingi Masakadza (Career ODI economy rate: 8.01)
Maurice Ouma (Highest ODI score: 61) > Regis Chakabva (Highest ODI score: 45)
Seren Waters (Highest ODI score: 74; Career ODI sixes: 1) > Craig Ervine (Highest ODI score: 67*; Career ODI sixes: 0)
Rakep Patel (Highest ODI score: 92; Career ODI economy rate: 4.69) > Sean Williams (Highest ODI score: 75; Career ODI economy rate: 5.05)
David Obuya (Batting average Vs. Zim: 30.70) > Tatenda Taibu (Batting average Vs. Kenya: 14.00)
Steve Tikolo (Career ODI batting average: 29.88; Career ODI bowling average: 32.86) > Sean Ervine (Career ODI batting average: 25.85; Career ODI bowling average: 38.07)
And the clinching one:
Shem Ngoche (Career ODI economy rate: 3.40) > Raymond Price (Career ODI economy rate: 3.88)
The squads:
Zimbabwe: Elton Chigumbura (captain), Regis Chakabva, Charles Coventry, Graeme Cremer, Craig Ervine, Sean Ervine, Greg Lamb, Shingi Masakadza, Chris Mpofu, Ray Price, Ed Rainsford, Tatenda Taibu, Brendan Taylor, Prosper Utseya, Sean Williams.
Kenya: Jimmy Kamande (capt), Seren Waters, Alex Obanda, David Obuya, Collins Obuya, Steve Tikolo, Tanmay Mishra, Rakep Patel, Maurice Ouma, Thomas Odoyo, Nehemiah Odhiambo, Elijah Otieno, Peter Ongondo, Shem Ngoche, James Ngoche.
Now, for the comparisons:
Jimmy Kamande (1028 runs @ 18.03, Career ODI bowling Average of 44.42) > Prosper Utseya (984 runs @ 15.87, Career ODI bowling average of 46.11)
Tanmay Mishra (Averages 31.73 after 29 ODIs, has bowled 3 deliveries in ODIs) > Charles Coventry (Averages 26.76 after 34 ODIs, has bowled 0 deliveries in ODIs)
James Ngoche (9 matches, 13 wickets @ 18.23; Economy rate: 3.08) > Greg Lamb (9 matches, 8 wickets @ 33.37; Economy rate: 3.98)
We already know this one: Alex Obanda (Career ODI batting average: 34.18) > Brendan Taylor (Career ODI batting average: 32.42)
Collins Obuya (Career ODI batting average: 24.07; Career ODI blowling average Vs. Srilanka: 8.85) > Graeme Cremer (Career ODI batting average: 13.56; Career ODI bowling average Vs. Srilanka: 35.50)
Nehemiah Odhiambo (57 wickets @ 34.29) > Christopher Mpofu (54 wickets @ 37.03)
Thomas Odoyo (Career ODI batting average: 24.12; Career ODI bowling average: 29.66) > Elton Chigumbura (Career ODI batting average: 24.12; Career ODI bowling average: 38.27)
Peter Ongondo (77 wickets @ 29.46) > Ed Rainsford (45 wickets at 31.13)
Elijah Otieno (Career ODI economy rate: 5.87) > Shingi Masakadza (Career ODI economy rate: 8.01)
Maurice Ouma (Highest ODI score: 61) > Regis Chakabva (Highest ODI score: 45)
Seren Waters (Highest ODI score: 74; Career ODI sixes: 1) > Craig Ervine (Highest ODI score: 67*; Career ODI sixes: 0)
Rakep Patel (Highest ODI score: 92; Career ODI economy rate: 4.69) > Sean Williams (Highest ODI score: 75; Career ODI economy rate: 5.05)
David Obuya (Batting average Vs. Zim: 30.70) > Tatenda Taibu (Batting average Vs. Kenya: 14.00)
Steve Tikolo (Career ODI batting average: 29.88; Career ODI bowling average: 32.86) > Sean Ervine (Career ODI batting average: 25.85; Career ODI bowling average: 38.07)
And the clinching one:
Shem Ngoche (Career ODI economy rate: 3.40) > Raymond Price (Career ODI economy rate: 3.88)
Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
Thats unfair as kenya have been playing mainly associate nations for some time now
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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
good comparison but you are just picking out the stats that favour kenya,
for example even though shingi does have a higher economy rate he does have a batting average of i think 37
Plus you compared obuya average against Sl to Creamers, when in the long run creamers would be superior. As well that he, Obuya has played sri lanka twice in his 10 year career good enough reasons to compare the two.
And with comparing the high scores of Chakbva and Ouma, yes Ouma has the higher top score but averages 21.15 in ODIs compared to Chakbva's 31.50.
But i do see what you are getting at all the same
for example even though shingi does have a higher economy rate he does have a batting average of i think 37
Plus you compared obuya average against Sl to Creamers, when in the long run creamers would be superior. As well that he, Obuya has played sri lanka twice in his 10 year career good enough reasons to compare the two.
And with comparing the high scores of Chakbva and Ouma, yes Ouma has the higher top score but averages 21.15 in ODIs compared to Chakbva's 31.50.
But i do see what you are getting at all the same
Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
It is easy for the Kenyans to have these stats when they only play against Burkina Faso and Equatorial Guinea.
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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
Folks, before I get killed - I forgot to put that sarcasm smiley at the end of that post.
Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
haha thats damn good circular logic right there!
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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
I like the comparison between Mishra and Coventry - Mishra having bowled 3 deliveries in ODIs and Coventry 0. Very funny.
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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
hey guys what you get from stat,
stat show that kenya team is better than zim.
stat show that kenya team is better than zim.

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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
No, mate it doesn't.jamthala wrote:hey guys what you get from stat,
stat show that kenya team is better than zim.
Stats mean nothing, they help, but they don't win games.
Zimbabwe are better than Kenya, full stop !
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Re: Current Zim team= Current kenya team
A couple of important ones that CrimsonAvenger missed:
Elijah Otieno (7 syllables) > Craig Ervine (3 syllables)
Nehemiah Odhiambo (worth 33 points on a Scrabble board) > Greg Lamb (worth 19 points on a Scrabble board)
Alex Obanda (38,400 hits on Google) > Regis Chakabva (30,000 results on Google)
Elijah Otieno (7 syllables) > Craig Ervine (3 syllables)
Nehemiah Odhiambo (worth 33 points on a Scrabble board) > Greg Lamb (worth 19 points on a Scrabble board)
Alex Obanda (38,400 hits on Google) > Regis Chakabva (30,000 results on Google)