Zimbabwe cut coaching staff for West Indies tour

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The senior coach, both specialist coaches left and senior players have all publicly come out against this decision. But what do they matter? What do they know about cricket? The committee has made the decision, period.
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bayhaus wrote: * She claims the current technical structure is the reason for the team's failure on the international arena
Argument starts to fall down here... Is she forgetting that all the other countries have much better players than Zim?...

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Once again, why hasn't any one of you questioned AC, DH & KC's role in this? Another sidetracking of issues by the ZCF partisan members, choosing instead to blame ZC for everything that goes bad in Zim cricket.

The Cricket Committee is said to be a powerful body in Zim cricket, and guess who heads it - AC!

Which mean he sanctioned this decision! What have you got to say about that?

Jarvis is not a senior player. Apart from Taylor, which senior players have denounced it Boundary?

Taylor acts oblivious. The fact of the matter is, Taylor was aware that a decision of this nature was on the table along time ago, and it had a high chance of being passed.

He must without fail be dismissed as captain!
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hhm wrote:He must without fail be dismissed as captain!

Why ? Under what grounds you idiot! He spoke out against this situation because he knows it's wrong. You're just assuming that he was aware of something like this happening, he was most probably manipulated into believing that this move would bring a better outcome, not this! And if AC was part of it, shame on him!

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So if AC is behind it, how does it fit with the Bayhaus conspiracy?

I am fine with less coaches really. In this tour though it is a bit tricky as if Mangongo is oging but GF isn't that is a bit prejudicial to the selection process. But in general, a coach and an assistant coach should be able to cope - let them earn their money. And if they can't help the players - then let's get rid of the post of assistant coach. One senior coach (in charge of fielding as well), one batting coach, one bowling coach.

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Jemisi wrote:And if they can't help the players - then let's get rid of the post of assistant coach.
Yes, what exactly is the role of this "assistant coach" anyway? How is he more valuable than a batting and bowling coach?

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http://www.theindependent.co.zw/2013/02 ... t-coaches/
Divisions bowl out coaches

As cricket fans grapple with specialist coaches Grant Flower and Heath Streak’s exclusion from the Zimbabwe party for the West Indies, it has been established that internal divisions forced the Cricket Committee to recommend the axing of the two.

Report by Kevin Mapasure

While speculation is rife that the reasons bowling coach Streak, batting coach Flower and fitness trainer Lorraine Chivandire were snubbed include a lack of finance, IndependentSport has established that the feeling within ZC is that the current set up that also includes head coach Alan Butcher and his assistant Steve Mangongongo has failed to click.

ZC communications manager Shingai Rhuhwaya yesterday confirmed that the decision was arrived at after recommendations from the Cricket Committee.

“This particular decision was made on the basis of recommendations by the Cricket Committee which includes reputable cricket greats Alistair Campbell, Dave Houghton and the late Kevin Curran who have 84 Tests and 290 ODIs between them,” said Rhuhwaya. “After the World Cup the Cricket Committee interviewed senior players and the recurring theme was lack of cohesion within the coaching structure.”
The committee, which also includes Cyprian Mandenge, Kapuya, and Chris Chiketa interviewed senior players, Brendan Taylor, Elton Chigumbura, Prosper Utseya, Ray Price, Hamilton Masakadza and Richard Muzhange.

While Rhuhwaya declined to discuss the details of that meeting it has been established that the committee saw “a need to review the whole technical structure”.

They reviewed reports from the technical team from the World Cup where they noted it was improper for Flower to refuse to go to a match due to differences with convener Givemore Makoni.

It is understood Makoni and Flower clashed over who to play between Utseya and Price, and the batting coach threatened to stay away if Price was excluded.

According to minutes of that meeting, Campbell asked the players if there was unity within the camp and Taylor said the team was not pulling in the same direction.

Houghton also asked if the players felt the coaching staff had differences, which both Utseya and Taylor confirmed.

Chigumbura felt the structure was too big adding that he preferred to work under a coach and assistant only.

Houghton explained that there was no harmony in the team.
It is understood there are factions within the team and players take instructions from their preferred coaches.

There are players who choose to listen to Streak only, which is why the former captain has fallen victim.

It is against this background that the committee recommended a technical structure with a head coach, assistant coach, analyst, physiotherapist, fitness trainer and a manager to be appointed on a tour by tour basis.

Streak said yesterday the only clashes they have had were on selection.

“We have been working well and have no issues that I know of,” Streak said.

“We have had debates and disagreements but those were only about selection, which is normal in this game.”
Again, what exactly is the role of an assistant coach and why is he so indispensable?

And when did Muzhange become a senior player?

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CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Jemisi wrote:And if they can't help the players - then let's get rid of the post of assistant coach.
Yes, what exactly is the role of this "assistant coach" anyway? How is he more valuable than a batting and bowling coach?
While we're at it let's abolish the posts of deputy president/prime minister!
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aydee wrote:Is she forgetting that all the other countries have much better players than Zim?...
She is just a spokesperson who doesnt make any decisions and is there to parrot what she has been told. The real culprits behind this coaching shenanigan have been named. Instead of saying ZC let us look at these individuals and blame them for all of this.
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hhm wrote:Once again, why hasn't any one of you questioned AC, DH & KC's role in this?
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