[Match Thread] Zimbabwe v West Indies HSC
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Re: [Match Thread] Zimbabwe v West Indies HSC
I agree with most of jaybro's post above.
With regard to the pitch: It was exactly the sort of pitch the ICC prefers for their televised events: full of runs. It's one of the reasons why we haven't been able to well there against big sides. Yesterday was a sort of action replay #99 from the last ten years, going back to the Price-Prosper-Cremer days: a flat wicket, we put up a decent but not enormous total, we restrict the opposition to an extent but fail to take wickets and they coast home in the end. All our seamers, except for Blessing, need help from the pitch, and as much as I rate Cremer, on a deck like that he's not the force he is when there's a bit of turn on offer. Incidently, yesterday showed why exactly Blessing is such a great asset, and not only for the future, because at his height and pace he will always be dangerous if he has his radar turned on.
With regard to the pitch: It was exactly the sort of pitch the ICC prefers for their televised events: full of runs. It's one of the reasons why we haven't been able to well there against big sides. Yesterday was a sort of action replay #99 from the last ten years, going back to the Price-Prosper-Cremer days: a flat wicket, we put up a decent but not enormous total, we restrict the opposition to an extent but fail to take wickets and they coast home in the end. All our seamers, except for Blessing, need help from the pitch, and as much as I rate Cremer, on a deck like that he's not the force he is when there's a bit of turn on offer. Incidently, yesterday showed why exactly Blessing is such a great asset, and not only for the future, because at his height and pace he will always be dangerous if he has his radar turned on.
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Re: [Match Thread] Zimbabwe v West Indies HSC
The UAE 18/3 after 9 overs against Afghanistan.
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Let me be clear, I've always been behind the team. Always. I stayed up till 1:30am to watch the guys and support them. Fickle is when you chop and change, I've never done that.
I've always said that as good as a player he is, Cremer is not a captain. Give anyone the role, they are bound to get some calls right, so yes he gets credit when it works, but in a game like yesterday, he was getting a lot wrong. I see BT and Raza doing more talking and gesturing and being proactive.
Yesterdays loss was hard to take because on reflection, it was really our own errors that cost us, and that is a common theme for us. It is more frustrating because when you consider that, you realise that we have the potential to be a top side, but don't. Granted teams have off days, but how many times can we say that. All those Afghanistan series come to mind.
Yesterday we messed up with:
1) Not picking the extra seamer. You pick a seamer in your world cup squad, have faith in him. Put him on a pitch that will do more for him than a spinner. Crunch games like this are not the time to try and play safe.
2) Losing early wickets, and losing wickets when we shouldn't have. BT saved us, but he needed a calmer head at the end. Could have added on more runs than we had. Hammy was hard done by as was Raza, but Cephas chasing something that wasn't to be chased, Williams getting out to the same trap as the last game, and Craig leaving the bat out there.
3) Not rotating the bowlers properly, and not thinking outside the box. Why not give Hammy the ball, or Mire? Wickets were not falling and nothing was on for the spinners, do something.
4) Fielding. We must have leaked about 20 runs in the field. Jarvis lazily chasing a ball allowing a second. Chisoro letting one through him for four. Other guys fumbling the ball, and the number of easy singles the Windies were allowed to take. Those singles also come down to fielders in the wrong positions. Get your key guys in the key positions. Raza dropping a catch early on. Why are we so quiet in the field also.
5) Why was the field so far back in the end. Windies only needed less than a run a ball and we opened the field for them.
6) Williams in the penultimate over. You keep Blessing and Jarvis for the end, and then you don't even use Jarvis.
7) Constantly bowling in the wrong spots. Williams was always down leg and short. The number of short balls that were in the wrong line were way too many. It was just asking to be punished.
On a side note, I am starting to hate the Windies even more. Did anyone notice Hetmyer giving Blessing the "I can't hear you", or "what? that's what i thought" treatment. We need to show that kind of fire.
I've always said that as good as a player he is, Cremer is not a captain. Give anyone the role, they are bound to get some calls right, so yes he gets credit when it works, but in a game like yesterday, he was getting a lot wrong. I see BT and Raza doing more talking and gesturing and being proactive.
Yesterdays loss was hard to take because on reflection, it was really our own errors that cost us, and that is a common theme for us. It is more frustrating because when you consider that, you realise that we have the potential to be a top side, but don't. Granted teams have off days, but how many times can we say that. All those Afghanistan series come to mind.
Yesterday we messed up with:
1) Not picking the extra seamer. You pick a seamer in your world cup squad, have faith in him. Put him on a pitch that will do more for him than a spinner. Crunch games like this are not the time to try and play safe.
2) Losing early wickets, and losing wickets when we shouldn't have. BT saved us, but he needed a calmer head at the end. Could have added on more runs than we had. Hammy was hard done by as was Raza, but Cephas chasing something that wasn't to be chased, Williams getting out to the same trap as the last game, and Craig leaving the bat out there.
3) Not rotating the bowlers properly, and not thinking outside the box. Why not give Hammy the ball, or Mire? Wickets were not falling and nothing was on for the spinners, do something.
4) Fielding. We must have leaked about 20 runs in the field. Jarvis lazily chasing a ball allowing a second. Chisoro letting one through him for four. Other guys fumbling the ball, and the number of easy singles the Windies were allowed to take. Those singles also come down to fielders in the wrong positions. Get your key guys in the key positions. Raza dropping a catch early on. Why are we so quiet in the field also.
5) Why was the field so far back in the end. Windies only needed less than a run a ball and we opened the field for them.
6) Williams in the penultimate over. You keep Blessing and Jarvis for the end, and then you don't even use Jarvis.
7) Constantly bowling in the wrong spots. Williams was always down leg and short. The number of short balls that were in the wrong line were way too many. It was just asking to be punished.
On a side note, I am starting to hate the Windies even more. Did anyone notice Hetmyer giving Blessing the "I can't hear you", or "what? that's what i thought" treatment. We need to show that kind of fire.
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Hetmyre is a typical arrogant West Indian, but he has talent. I did enjoy it when he got stumped, and then Cremer told him to 'keep walking bud', though.
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Just went through some posts of the thread. Pretty sad if the ICC did a few small tweaks here and there to ensure a WI victory, although I just hope it was all just co-incidental.
Two bad calls this series already for Hamilton, and that's pretty sad. When he nicked one onto his pads, they said he didn't and gave him out LBW, and when he didn't nick it, they said he did and gave him out caught behind...
That Raza no-ball non-call looks diabolical, now that I have taken a look at a screengrab. How on earth is that not a no-ball?
Did this all start in the previous match though? Balbirnie out plum LBW and wasn't given. Goes onto score a 100 to mess up Scotland's chances.
Zim and Scotland, being the nice guys, have been on the receiving end of the bad calls too
So, our long CWC Qualifiers unbeaten streak came to an end yesterday, but hey, it took a two time CWC world champions to break it!
Two bad calls this series already for Hamilton, and that's pretty sad. When he nicked one onto his pads, they said he didn't and gave him out LBW, and when he didn't nick it, they said he did and gave him out caught behind...
That Raza no-ball non-call looks diabolical, now that I have taken a look at a screengrab. How on earth is that not a no-ball?
Did this all start in the previous match though? Balbirnie out plum LBW and wasn't given. Goes onto score a 100 to mess up Scotland's chances.
Zim and Scotland, being the nice guys, have been on the receiving end of the bad calls too

So, our long CWC Qualifiers unbeaten streak came to an end yesterday, but hey, it took a two time CWC world champions to break it!
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We beat UAE, we go through to the World Cup in England. That's all that matters.
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The way UAE are playing...looks Zimbabwe should win the match easily
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They seem to be hitting the ball now.
A score over 220 will be tough for Afgan. Lets hope that Naveed guy doesn't do the same vs Zimbabwe
A score over 220 will be tough for Afgan. Lets hope that Naveed guy doesn't do the same vs Zimbabwe

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That’s right and as Zimfan1 said if you offered that to the players a month ago they would of bit your hand off for it
The weather forecast looks good so it’s just up to our guys to deliver, Ive backed the boys to deliver the whole time even after the disaster in Sharjah so again I’m confident this won’t be an issue.
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