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Netherlands v Zimbabwe
Wednesday 19th March

If we somehow conspire to lose this, it really is tournament over, even if Ireland slip up. But hey, we've lost to two Associates already this trip, what harm with making it a 3'fer? </sarcasm>

The Southern Hemisphere Dutch Heritage XI is a disgrace to world cricket. Let's smash them!

foreignfield wrote:The Southern Hemisphere Dutch Heritage XI is a disgrace to world cricket. Let's smash them!

Almost as bad as the 'Pakistan B' Hong Kong ....

Hope we can dominate with a big batting effort up front

jaybro wrote:

foreignfield wrote:The Southern Hemisphere Dutch Heritage XI is a disgrace to world cricket. Let's smash them!

Almost as bad as the 'Pakistan B' Hong Kong ....

I tend to disagree. The vast majority of those "Pakistanis" in the Hong Kong side have come through their system. They were not picked from Pakistani FC teams to represent HK. I have no problem with migration, it's a reality. Same applies to the UAE, or Canada or any other side who relies heavily on expats.

The Dutch, in contrast, are actively recruiting players from SA, Aus, NZ who would never consider to emigrate to the Netherlands, and they have done so for some time. Yesterday they had one player in the team who came through their system (Jamil) and one other player who might or might not have moved to the Netherlands with a different purpose than to play for their national side (Bukhari).

The Gruijters affair really sums it up.

In the past the Netherlands developed their own talent and had a few additional players from the first cricketing world. Now every young cricketer in the Netherlands knows that when he's made it through the age-groups he'll hit a glass ceiling with a couple or more new imports coming in by the season. I'm glad the Dutch lost out on qualification for the next WC because it gives them less money to got out recruiting.

foreignfield wrote:

jaybro wrote:

foreignfield wrote:The Southern Hemisphere Dutch Heritage XI is a disgrace to world cricket. Let's smash them!

Almost as bad as the 'Pakistan B' Hong Kong ....

I tend to disagree. The vast majority of those "Pakistanis" in the Hong Kong side have come through their system. They were not picked from Pakistani FC teams to represent HK. I have no problem with migration, it's a reality. Same applies to the UAE, or Canada or any other side who relies heavily on expats.

The Dutch, in contrast, are actively recruiting players from SA, Aus, NZ who would never consider to emigrate to the Netherlands, and they have done so for some time. Yesterday they had one player in the team who came through their system (Jamil) and one other player who might or might not have moved to the Netherlands with a different purpose than to play for their national side (Bukhari).

The Gruijters affair really sums it up.

In the past the Netherlands developed their own talent and had a few additional players from the first cricketing world. Now every young cricketer in the Netherlands knows that when he's made it through the age-groups he'll hit a glass ceiling with a couple or more new imports coming in by the season. I'm glad the Dutch lost out on qualification for the next WC because it gives them less money to got out recruiting.

Seelar came through their system, I believe. Bukhari also moved their long before he was playing international cricket, he can be considered to be in the same boat as the Pakistani migrants in other sides.

aydee wrote:Seelar came through their system, I believe. Bukhari also moved their long before he was playing international cricket, he can be considered to be in the same boat as the Pakistani migrants in other sides.

Yup, I overlooked Seelar ... that's three out of 11, great!

foreignfield wrote:

aydee wrote:Seelar came through their system, I believe. Bukhari also moved their long before he was playing international cricket, he can be considered to be in the same boat as the Pakistani migrants in other sides.

Yup, I overlooked Seelar ... that's three out of 11, great!

...almost as good as the English!

Ming wrote:...almost as good as the English!

My Zim XI vs Net: (Waller in for Sibanda/Maruma, Mushangwe in for Kamungozi)

1. Hamilton Masakadza
2. Sikandar Raza
3. Brendan Taylor (C+WK)
4. Sean Williams
5. Elton Chugumbura
6. Malcolm Waller
7. Timycen Maruma/Vusimuzi Sibanda
8. Prosper Utseya
9. Tinashe Panyangara
10. Tendai Chatara
11. Natsai Mushangwe