[Match Thread ] Singapore Tri Nation T20I Game 3 | SIN v ZIM

[Mueddie28]

Total embarrassment...
In other countries, ...the coach, or the selection committee or the ZC chairman would resign
But it's Zimbabwe ..

[Kriterion_BD]

This game just proves that once you take Taylor, Jarvis, Cremer, and Raza out of the picture, ZIM will lose their fair share of games against teams like Nepal, Oman, Denmark, Canada, Bermuda, etc. They will still probably win more than they lose, but they will lose a significant chunk of games against non-ODI status sides.

With the likes of Taylor, Jarvis, Raza, Ervine, and Williams...ZIM will be able to dominate these types of sides and should be thereabouts with teams like Ireland, Scotland, and Netherlands. In a high pressure knockout match in some qualifier, there is still a chance of losing to a USA or UAE type side.

But the idea that the Kasuzas, Jongwes, Gumbies, Ngaravas, Madzivas, Mutombodzis, and Kamunhukamwes can take ZIM cricket forward is not possible unless the Welches, Byroms, and others make returns.

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I disagree with a lot of views here.

T20Is have been designed to narrow the gap.

Zimbabwe lost because they didn't deploy players that are fit for purpose.

Chatara conceded a lot of runs in his 2nd spell that other game. Jarvis has been going at a very expensive rate. This ground was tiny and margin of error very small. The usually very tidy Wellingotn is proof enough. ZIM was alway sgoing to fetch in this ground regardless. The issue was the batting.

This has got nothing to do with Zimbabwe's player depth but everything to do with specialisation. Why on earth do you think the ENG and AUS T20 sides look so different from their Test sides?

Some of these Associates have mastered this. That's why they have specialist T20 players that are world class and IPL material.

Stop pointing fingers at Zimbabwe's player depth because some 2nd and even 3rd team Zimbabwean sides can embarass IRE/AFG/BD in a Test match tomorrow in Zimbabwe.

Point fingers at the unsuitable Zimbabwe players. There is a reason a Cephas Zhuawo an Solomon Mire hammer top club cricketers in AUS and ENG. That's because it's their specialty. I will always pick a Panyangara9Chisosro spinner) over any ZIM seamer for the simple reason that I know he is so exceptionally skilled Associates will seldom cope with him, even if he battles with the old ball. Not even top batsmen can cope with him if he bowls through(or most of his quota) with the new ball. Same applies to Rainsford. Anyway those players are gone.

Zhuwao, Mire, Elton, Hami, Maruma(fit), Malcolm would have scored crazy runs against this team.

An active Kasuza, Maruma(fit), Zhuwao, Kamunhukamwe, Sauramba-wk (never mind Elton who would have been left out of this lowly series anyway) would too. It's T20, and they are proven in that format or generally big hitters.

In as much as you point fingers at ZIM selectors ZC etc, also acknowledge as fans that you are clueless about ZIM players with regards to T20.

Only Chakabva scored runs at over 200 SR. That's pathetic for this kind of opposition. I'm not proud of Williams. 180 is pathetic against this attack. Show me a Lamichhane in this Singapore line up. He face 35 balls! Imagine what Cephas Zhuwao would have done with 35 balls against this lot!

Manh of you laughed at Rinke, Strydom, Maregwede and Dabengwa. They would have been mainstays for Zimbabwe back then if T20s were around. Proper big hitters. Heck even Mahwire was a big hitter.

I'm old school in terms of cricket, but believe you me over the years I've had to transform to be able to contribute properly to development. T20 definitely narrows the gap.

And the last person to argue is an Australian because ZIM embarrassed AUS with Vusi going beserk up front. He thumped Brett Lee and Nathan Bracken, reducing a T20 game into an ODI game within few balls. ZIM were already way ahead of AUS at the same stage by the time Vusi got out. They won by 5 wickets with typical non-T20 players almost messing it up, because likes of Strydom, Dabengwa and Maregwede were considered unsitable Sunil Narine may only be a champion spinner but you seldom win against his side after he's done damage upfront. KKR are not stupid to open the batting with him. They know.

I recall some guys here even said pick Vitori as an opening T20 batsmen even though he can't bowl. It sounded crazy, but was it? Would you open the batting in T20s with Heath Streak and Paul Strang, leaving Andy and Grant out of the XI? I would!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgkCxbTFgA8

In T20s I would definitely open the batting with Kalu and Murali, and even leave Sanga and Mahela out of the XI(with the likes of Sanatha, Dilshan and Perera to come).

So, ZIM has the players. PICK THEM!

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But don’t you think they should sack the selectors and coaching staff, or do you think they should be allowed to keep embarrassing Zim?
The board are unlikely to sack themselves, but they should at least keep consistent with booting out guys after historic losses.

[zimbos_05]

Murali over Sanga...now I've heard it all. Of course you'd want a man with an average of .5 opening over a man with an average of 31.

Losing to Singapore has no excuses. Regardless of who you are. We are a full members whose players play regularly and do this as a living, they should be beating part timers. No reason or excuse will tell me otherwise.

Williams and Regis did well, but you need to see it home. Players are also too inconsistent. Aaron finch came to Zim and made a mockery of us, because that's what proper cricketers do. Size of field names no difference to them.

A lot of our guys are just or good enough. End of. It's due to the best leaving. It's due to lack of structure for them to develop. It's due to nepotism, favouritism, theft, ineptitude, racism.

I agree with players for specific formats, but even a slightly abject side should be beating a Singapore. Selectors have no idea. Coaches are clueless. Administration are destroying us..it's simple.

Also, I'm quite certain encore is Mukhulani or one of his relatives

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But don’t you think they should sack the selectors and coaching staff, or do you think they should be allowed to keep embarrassing Zim?
The board are unlikely to sack themselves, but they should at least keep consistent with booting out guys after historic losses.

I can blame the board or ZC in general for a few things, but not for the Singapore loss.

That I will never do.

I know Bangladesh have beaten AUS in a Test before IN BANGLADESH, but trust me, no one would survive if the same were to ever happen to SA. And the board would be the last people on the blame list.

I warned you guys about Williams and Rajput. I also warned you guys about Streak and Cremer.

How on earth do you open the bowling with a spinner after it has been raining???

Can Jakiel swing the ball? Could hehave exploited the conditions?

What would Chatara, Jarvis, Panyangara, Meth, Shingi or Mupariwa have done under those conditions?


I watched Mahboob show Chari flames, and listened to the commentators repeatedly praise him. He's 39 for crying out loud. It was the conditions! All the batsmen struggled against him!

Singapore opened with two seamers! How does ZIM get such a basic thing wrong? How on earth does Sean Williams throw the ball to Wellington?

Zimbabwe is ridiculous, and to be honest, sometimes I really wonder if the ZIM fans make it easy. This is crazy! Blaming the board for a captain tossing a new ball to spinner of a puddle?

NB: And before you say it, Madziva has never been that kind of seamer for these kids of conditions, and how many times have we seen Philander and Tsotsobe completely outbowl Steyn and Morkel and Tests and ODIs? Olivier, Viljoen and Morkel are in County cricket but what is Abbott doing to them over there? Elementary mistakes ZIM. Elementary. And I'm upset! Downright silly to expect me to excuse Sean Williams. That was pathetic.

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Your racist personal agenda knows no bounds. You will always find some excuse for the black players, but the white guys are always forever at fault. Streak and Cremer and not even there and you still find a way to blame them.

You argue for Wellington, Ngarava, Madziva and now that they are there and getting tonked, it is not their fault. It is some white guy from 1980 who once decided to bowl left arm seam instead of spin who is to blame.

Williams top scored and got MOTM but still his fault. Not the fault of the others who did not pull their weight. Ngarava had the new ball and went at 12 an over. Our best bowlers were the two has been spinners, Burl and Williams.

[TapsC]

At least we know now that suspension might have saved us from real embarrassment. T20 cricket needs practice. We take it too lightly and anything is possible on the day.

[TapsC]

Brian Chari is an example of what I meant when I said you cant afford to play people who have to force shots. 9 deliveries for 2 runs chasing 180 in 18 overs. Ultimately cost us the game

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Stop pointing fingers at Zimbabwe's player depth because some 2nd and even 3rd team Zimbabwean sides can embarass IRE/AFG/BD in a Test match tomorrow in Zimbabwe.

I promise you that’s not true.
Millfield school would beat a Zim 3rd team 20 out of 20 times in any format on any pitch, and you can take poison on that.

You’re all over Williams’ captaincy, but you were quiet during Hammy’s 24 match losing streak