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Zimfanatic69 wrote:I think very good team is one that has batsman who can bat for long.

Duffin
Taylor
Masakadza
Williams S
Matsikenyeri or Chibumbura
Chibhabha
Lamb
Taibu
Mawhire
Cremer
Price

Utseya should not play. He is useless.

THAT'S TOO HARSH !!

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Zimfanatic69 wrote:Ervine is one game wonder at moment. Matsi has been in the team a long time and has lots of experience. He has played many games of longer duration and a few tests and did quite well in them. He has the application and has proven he has the ability.

You are forgetting we are talking test match here and not one day thrash.
Sorry but this is just stupid. How can you say He's a one game wonder when he's only had 2 innings in his whole international career ?? Craig Ervine has twenty times more the talent Stuart Matskinyeri possesses.
And when ever I whatched Matskinyeri bat in tests he always struggled, both against spin and pace, and you saying that he's actually shown us that he's got the ability is a poor assessment.

And I know you're talking about Test Match Cricket, that's the reason why everybody else has included Craig Ervine somewhere in their test XI, he's a quality batter !!

It's the strangest post I've ever read next to some of ZIMDOGGY's stuff

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Matsikenyeri is a bum. I encourage anyone who thinks he is good to read my analysis of his career that i posted last week.
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eugene wrote:Matsikenyeri is a bum. I encourage anyone who thinks he is good to read my analysis of his career that i posted last week.
I wouldn't go as far as calling him a bum. But he certainly has no place in our future Zimbabwean side, that is for sure.
And the piece you wrote Eugene was good

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sloandog wrote:
Zimfanatic69 wrote:Ervine is one game wonder at moment. Matsi has been in the team a long time and has lots of experience. He has played many games of longer duration and a few tests and did quite well in them. He has the application and has proven he has the ability.

You are forgetting we are talking test match here and not one day thrash.
Sorry but this is just stupid. How can you say He's a one game wonder when he's only had 2 innings in his whole international career ?? Craig Ervine has twenty times more the talent Stuart Matskinyeri possesses.
And when ever I whatched Matskinyeri bat in tests he always struggled, both against spin and pace, and you saying that he's actually shown us that he's got the ability is a poor assessment.

And I know you're talking about Test Match Cricket, that's the reason why everybody else has included Craig Ervine somewhere in their test XI, he's a quality batter !!

It's the strangest post I've ever read next to some of ZIMDOGGY's stuff
I actually had Matsi or Chigs as players in test team. One or other. Matsi has good experience batting for long time in middle in longer games and is an old head. When we play tests we need old heads around us. Ervine needs to prove he is not flash in the pan. Remember Coventry scoring that big hundred in the one day series but little else in that series. That is the risk with Ervine too. I am thinking of test matches not one day thrash.
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sloandog wrote:
Zimfanatic69 wrote:Ervine is one game wonder at moment. Matsi has been in the team a long time and has lots of experience. He has played many games of longer duration and a few tests and did quite well in them. He has the application and has proven he has the ability.

You are forgetting we are talking test match here and not one day thrash.
And I know you're talking about Test Match Cricket, that's the reason why everybody else has included Craig Ervine somewhere in their test XI, he's a quality batter !!

Yes you are right. He proved that today.

:lol:
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I guess Matsikenyeri's 'experience' of underperforming for 8 years and still getting picked for the national side would be useful for the other players. Matsikenyeri clearly knows a thing or two about how to get selected regardless of performance.
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Lets now look at how Zim middle order is...We have Taibu, Craig Ervine, Coventry and hopefully we will have Sean Ervine and Williams, thats a perfect middle order followed by Lamb, Bliggie and Chiggs..What more can we expect our squad to be... I think Chibabha and Vusi are good players, they should be kept in reserves and give them more chances to open in domestic format and t-20, they are good timers of the ball and I think the problem with these guys is just they are inconsistent...Keep Chibabha as a backup for Chiggis and Bliggie and always play Williams and Sean Ervine no matter what as they are the most talented batsman even better than Taylor, Taibu or anybody else. People say Coventry is an average blind hitter in odi, thats true I wouldnt keep him in test matches but in odis he is one player who can take mathes away in couple of sixes. Its not a risk to play Coventry, Bliggie or Marillier in the team as these are the players who come from nowhere and win matches in couple of overs.I think we should also give chance for Williams to bowl in odis as I think he is a good bowler too and we dont need Lamb as a specialist bowler as we have already three good spinners in the squad. Instead we can take two fast bowlers, and i would pick Jarvis and Ireland/Rainsford..Guys like Friday Kasteni, Maruma, Malcolm Waller, Ewing, Chitara etc should be given more chances in domestic tournaments as they are players with tremendous potential. Waller could be Zim's next Craig Or Williams.

As far as the peoples choice about Matsi, I think its just giving a chance to a guy who isnt upto international standard although he has played over 100 games. Vusi, Chibaha, Dabengwa, Matsi arent consistent enough but sometimes should be given chances when our good players are out of form or injured. I remember when Zim had these guys in the middle order the team looked so weak. They played Mawoyo, Alistair Mardwedge; Matsi and Dabengwa came at 5-6 batting postions followed by Prosper at 7 as allrounder. Only Taylor, Chiggs and Hammie used to bat well others were simply poor, the guys like Vusi, Chibabha played well once in a blue moon. Looking at this present squad I am so satisfied as it is almost my dream Zimbabwen team. The only thing I am worried about now is to get good pace bowlers real quick and call back Williams and Sean Ervine to make the most powerful and stable batting Zim ever had since Flowers left.

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I agree with a lot of what you've just said Zimsupporter, a lot !
You're right in what you said about Charles Coventry. He's a genuine match winner, and should be kept in our side as a wild card as most teams today have a wild card. Guys like Dougie Marrilliar and Blignaut may well never reach the heights they achieved previously, but then again they might ! In my opinion Marrilliar won't play for Zimbabwe again as there's too much talent to be ignored. Like you rightfully pointed out, youngsters like Chitara, Malcolm and Nathan Waller, Foster Mutizwa, Meth, S.Mazakadza, Dylan Higgins etc should be pushing for at least A side spots if not for the national side.

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sloandog wrote:I agree with a lot of what you've just said Zimsupporter, a lot !
You're right in what you said about Charles Coventry. He's a genuine match winner, and should be kept in our side as a wild card as most teams today have a wild card. Guys like Dougie Marrilliar and Blignaut may well never reach the heights they achieved previously, but then again they might ! In my opinion Marrilliar won't play for Zimbabwe again as there's too much talent to be ignored. Like you rightfully pointed out, youngsters like Chitara, Malcolm and Nathan Waller, Foster Mutizwa, Meth, S.Mazakadza, Dylan Higgins etc should be pushing for at least A side spots if not for the national side.

Mutizwa and M Waller should be on the fringe of selection for national team. Mutizwa never given decent crack in the team.
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