Afghanistan Tour of Zimbabwe Thread

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:38 pm
One day I hope someone looks at me like Andrea looks at a tape ball….

If you think Italy cricket is bad check with heritage players check out the rugby league World Cup.

I still think the gist is correct, the only real play we have in the mid to short term at this point is target the best of the diaspora and target them hard.
Cartwright, Goodwin and Byrom. Anyone else? Ballance?
Wasn’t long ago the diaspora list of quality was longer than we could think but it’s shrinking now.
In the words of another great Italian, let’s make them an offer they cannot refuse.
All the names you said are whites ..
Mutendera looks ar color maybe Mire and Chari can come back..
Waiting on Bhawa and Kamwendo..lol

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Bringing back older players is absolutely not in the ZC remit.

Remember.....the main thing, is the main thing... 🤦

ZC will remain hellbent on running cricket like everything else in the country. To loot it until its dry and ruined.

Lets look at Byrom. Last season he said he is no intention of suiting for Zim as he is looking to suit for England.

For me, he is way off opening for England, but for Zim he would be a coup. A 35 List A average vs good county bowlers is head and shoulders above what we currently have.

Curran is a diaspora that has offered services. He didnt make the county season, but absolutely wrecking the domestic season here.

What can you see? Our domestic league is so incredibly poor and the folks pulling the strings will do everything they can to avoid selecting certain players because, if we start to win, they'll look like idiots and they wont be having that.

M and J Campbell are on fire this season, more so Jono.

M and N Welch are also on fire.

Curran is a shoe in for thw AFG testa on form and stats, but i highly doubt he will feature.

Maru is looking really good this season

Myers clearly has the game, but going through a rough patch.

Burl is clearly our best T20 player after Raza statistically, but honestly his form is so poor he will face the axe and rightly so.

Welly statistically remains our best front line spinner, as much as many dont like him. Numbers dont lie.

Our bowling has never really been in focus, because Richie and Muza are top quality bowlers which for me are somehow keeping us a afloat.

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Well statistically our best T20 player of all time is Faraz. Again not knocking the guy, he's had a couple of good innings, but it shows that stats get your attention but don't tell the story.

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Googly wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:13 am
Well statistically our best T20 player of all time is Faraz. Again not knocking the guy, he's had a couple of good innings, but it shows that stats get your attention but don't tell the story.
#SampleSize

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Googly wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:13 am
Well statistically our best T20 player of all time is Faraz. Again not knocking the guy, he's had a couple of good innings, but it shows that stats get your attention but don't tell the story.
He can bat yes but he gets picked as a bowler and his stats are terrible for t20 cricket.

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:38 pm
One day I hope someone looks at me like Andrea looks at a tape ball….

If you think Italy cricket is bad check with heritage players check out the rugby league World Cup.

I still think the gist is correct, the only real play we have in the mid to short term at this point is target the best of the diaspora and target them hard.
Cartwright, Goodwin and Byrom. Anyone else? Ballance?
Wasn’t long ago the diaspora list of quality was longer than we could think but it’s shrinking now.
In the words of another great Italian, let’s make them an offer they cannot refuse.
While wondering how I do look at a tapeball...(?), Ballance himself, though for an unfortunate too short stint, has proved that it may be possible to seek in the diaspora.
Anyhow, I'm not thinking of present stars or semiretired 'foreign' players.

The "Italian" players, currently forming 9 out of 11 of "Italy", are third generation descendants (none of them speak Italian, a few of them have never set foot in the peninsula).
I'm thinking that among the tens of thousands of Zimbabweans who left the Country, there are surely children (maybe some grandchildren) who are young prospects who are going to give away a cricketing career in the near future because they do not see opportunities where their parents have settled.

Present wicket keeper for Italy is Giampiero Meade. Born and raised in South Africa, with no remote chance to be in any cricket league in South Africa, he is playing international cricket for Italy.
Surely for the modest quality of Italy who for us is a "star" would be a mediocre third tier player for Zimbabwe.
On the other hand it is statistically believable to investigate that there must be young interesting, Zim eligible, prospects in the tens of thousand of Zimbabweans in the diaspora who could fit in the quality required to represent Zimbabwe.

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We know practically every single really promising adult and junior player in the world with Zimbabwe heritage.
People talk.

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andrea lanzoni wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:21 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:38 pm
One day I hope someone looks at me like Andrea looks at a tape ball….

If you think Italy cricket is bad check with heritage players check out the rugby league World Cup.

I still think the gist is correct, the only real play we have in the mid to short term at this point is target the best of the diaspora and target them hard.
Cartwright, Goodwin and Byrom. Anyone else? Ballance?
Wasn’t long ago the diaspora list of quality was longer than we could think but it’s shrinking now.
In the words of another great Italian, let’s make them an offer they cannot refuse.
While wondering how I do look at a tapeball...(?), Ballance himself, though for an unfortunate too short stint, has proved that it may be possible to seek in the diaspora.
Anyhow, I'm not thinking of present stars or semiretired 'foreign' players.

The "Italian" players, currently forming 9 out of 11 of "Italy", are third generation descendants (none of them speak Italian, a few of them have never set foot in the peninsula).
I'm thinking that among the tens of thousands of Zimbabweans who left the Country, there are surely children (maybe some grandchildren) who are young prospects who are going to give away a cricketing career in the near future because they do not see opportunities where their parents have settled.

Present wicket keeper for Italy is Giampiero Meade. Born and raised in South Africa, with no remote chance to be in any cricket league in South Africa, he is playing international cricket for Italy.
Surely for the modest quality of Italy who for us is a "star" would be a mediocre third tier player for Zimbabwe.
On the other hand it is statistically believable to investigate that there must be young interesting, Zim eligible, prospects in the tens of thousand of Zimbabweans in the diaspora who could fit in the quality required to represent Zimbabwe.
Isn't Joe Burns also playing for Italy now?

Not sure what the agenda is against Andrea, but the work that needs to be done by ZC can't really be fixed through simple diaspora recruitment. There is definitely heaps out there - Brydon Carse the latest example.

Problem is that ZC are too entrenched in their corruption to offer these players anything worthwhile. Threw Ballance to the curb first opportunity they got, yet their mates can get away with corruption beyond corruption and still be in the squad or in leadership positions.

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:06 pm
Threw Ballance to the curb first opportunity they got
Someone threw someone :lol:

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Was going through the scorecards of logan cup and pro 50. Definitely a strong case for Curran and N Welch's selection. If they still don't do it then I can't see how that will motivate these players to keep performing. Esp because Zimbabwe don't play that often.

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