Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach

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Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach

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Andy31 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:12 am
I know zimdoggy has mentioned Cartwright a bit.
I reckon he be the easiest get.

So much talent in WA.

Finish ya career playing internationals and maybe some 2020 gigs
I don’t think Cartwright would ever come play for zim as I’ve stated in the past. He loves it here and makes good money as a domestic player, playing in a very successful strong team. He goes well in the big bash as the finisher for Melbourne stars as well. If you look at the wa squad more players have actually played for Australia than those who haven’t, I’ll list a few and the formats they have played for Aus. Excuse me if I forgot anyone, this will show you how crazy the depth is. For a population so small and how many international cricketers we produce is crazy. Nsw has always been the producer of our best cricketers and the most cricketers, which they still have produced Aussies current best players. But they have had a decline in debuts which is very unlike New South Wales.

Australian representation from wa squad
1. Hilton Cartwright ( white ball )
2. Jye Richardson ( all forms )
3. Mitch marsh ( all forms )
4. Jason behrendoff ( white ball )
5. Marcus stoinis ( white ball )
6. Cameron green ( all formats )
7. Aaron Hardie ( white ball )
8. Ashton Agar ( all formats )
9. Lance morris ( odis )
10. Ashton Turner ( white ball )
11. Josh Inglis ( white ball )
12. Andrew tye ( white ball )
13. Cooper Connolly ( white ball )
14. Cameron Bancroft ( all formats )
15. Joel Paris ( odis )
16. Darcy Short ( white ball )


That’s insane, considering josh phillipe ( white ball ) just left to get more games so moved to nsw at the start of the season. Marley Beardman is already in the odi squads and on tours for development, Sam whiteman the captain could easily open for Australia in tests and has been top 3 leading run scorers in the Shield up until this season. Corey Rocchiccioli is playing for Aus A, and in my opinion the second best spinner in the country. Jayden Goodwin will play for Australia in my opinion as well, I don’t think I’ve seen a stronger domestic team in any country in my 32 years Alive.
Indian and English cricket is a cult and bazball is delusional and embarrassing. Bumrah chucks it, Cummins has a shocking seam position, stokes is a fraud. Bangladesh shouldn’t have test status, Bradman was a coat.Marco Jansen is good, zim will rise !

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Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach

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Andybligzz wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:57 am
Andy31 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:46 am
Western Australia’s state side has been very good for a number of years.
If WA ever breaks away, their will be a dam good associate side lol
Yep I live in WA and it’s been one of the most successful eras in Australian domestic cricket. Hat trick of shield winners, hat trick of one day comp, and the scorchers are the most successful bbl franchise in aus. Some serious young talent coming through as well, Marley Beardman who played for Aus under 19s and dominated India, took 3 wickets in the bbl last night. He bowls 145 plus, long blonde hair, skinny surfer rat, will be playing for Aus in 2 years as he’s already been on tour with odi squad. Serious bowler. Jayden Goodwin is scoring shield tons and is a very very good player, cooper Connolly will get a baggy green in Sri Lanka, and I believe one day will captain Australia. Our depth at the moment in WA is crazy.
Any chance we get Jayden back in the country to do missionary work so that we can give him a farm and convince him to play for his father’s homeland?
The higher you go the cooler it becomes.

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Andybligzz wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:53 am
I don’t think I’ve seen a stronger domestic team in any country in my 32 years Alive.
Hard to go past the mid nineties nsw team;

1. Mark TAYLOR
2. Michael Slater
3. Corey Richards/ Chee Quee
4. Mark Waugh
5. Steve Waugh
6. Michael Bevan
7 Greg Matthews
8 Shane Lee
9 Phil Emery
10. Stuart Macgill
11. Glenn Mcgrath
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12 Anthony Stuart

Problem was, in those days they pretty much had to field a B team because at any given time 6/7 players were on national duty, that and anti NSW bias, meant they ironically were always lower end of the table.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:08 pm
Andybligzz wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:53 am
I don’t think I’ve seen a stronger domestic team in any country in my 32 years Alive.
Hard to go past the mid nineties nsw team;

1. Mark TAYLOR
2. Michael Slater
3. Corey Richards/ Chee Quee
4. Mark Waugh
5. Steve Waugh
6. Michael Bevan
7 Greg Matthews
8 Shane Lee
9 Phil Emery
10. Stuart Macgill
11. Glenn Mcgrath
-
12 Anthony Stuart

Problem was, in those days they pretty much had to field a B team because at any given time 6/7 players were on national duty, that and anti NSW bias, meant they ironically were always lower end of the table.

Yeh that’s a very good side that, some handy players ;) didn’t win as many titles as WA though :)
Indian and English cricket is a cult and bazball is delusional and embarrassing. Bumrah chucks it, Cummins has a shocking seam position, stokes is a fraud. Bangladesh shouldn’t have test status, Bradman was a coat.Marco Jansen is good, zim will rise !

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Update from someone close to his family that reads this forum:

“Higgins has expressed a big interest in playing for Zim, but has been told there's no contract and he has to prove himself in franchise first”

And that means 300 usd a month, and he is hesitant to give up a county contract for such unknowns
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:04 pm
Update from someone close to his family that reads this forum:

“Higgins has expressed a big interest in playing for Zim, but has been told there's no contract and he has to prove himself in franchise first”

And that means 300 usd a month, and he is hesitant to give up a county contract for such unknowns
If that's true, then he absolutely has to go back to county cricket and continue there. He doesnt deserve that level of disrespect. What a fucking joke that is. A player with his record and those county stats. He might not be a 90mph bowler, but he's a very talented seamer who could add a lot to a wayward bowling attack, as well as some real quality with the bat. Probably because there's a quota of only 4 white cricketers allowed in there hey..

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Yep the good old quota system will deprive the country of another player who should be slotted straight into the line up. He would balance out the team perfectly as a genuine allrounder in which there is zero of his quality at the moment. The hierarchy are imbeciles if they let this guy walk back to county cricket.

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:04 pm
Update from someone close to his family that reads this forum:

“Higgins has expressed a big interest in playing for Zim, but has been told there's no contract and he has to prove himself in franchise first”

And that means 300 usd a month, and he is hesitant to give up a county contract for such unknowns
For me the question would be- how long?

I don't have a problem with a season of franchise. But he's been here already.

His allround skills make him a certain asset.

Get him in the team!

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Looking at the current team dynamics I think the best thing would be to play another season of county then have a full season here. After that it will be clear that he will bring value. Half a season isn't enough, especially with all this rain.

To be honest I think the Ballance situation will have a long lasting effect here. Nobody will be as trusting. Historically this has happend multiple times. Even if you look at Johnson and Goodwin. They didn't play for long. It's very tricky for them to invest in someone who can walk away any time. It can be argued that it's better to invest in Brad Evans who is already here.

Ben showed some real grit and determination and they will reward him for that. He earned it. Unfortunately unless you come and do a Naqvi in the domestic system, the days of just handing out contracts might be over. I actually think the person they should try convince is Tom Curran because he has multiple T20 contracts. Does he really need a county contract compared to an international one?

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People bailing out is generally who's fault? Many players don't get paid enough and not on time.

If they do bail out what's it costing ZC, the player has broken his contract surely? No harm no foul.

Ben has come and gone also, but he's managed his time well. He also pushed hard for a central contract from the get go and he is unlikely to actually get one until he establishes himself. The old war horses and favorites in franchise chew up a lot of cash that could be put to better use.
He has been very ordinary until this season. No extra grit and determination beyond what is necessary. There are players that make his efforts pale by comparison.

Do we need another Raza using the system to springboard his T20 gigs? Tom Curran will be oil and water here. Now there's an overrated player. Fuck knows how he's had the career he's had. Higgins is a way way way better bet.

These central contracts are generally a year anyway. Offer Higgins a performance based one year contract for 7k a month (less than some of the others) and its costing ZC very little. We need this guy, even if he doesn't do too well, or gets overtaken by someone else and doesn't make the starting eleven on occasion. Plus he beefs up our woeful franchise standard. He ticks every box.

It's not easy to talk about ZC investing in players without breaking into a little sweat. I'd agree if there were high performance centres with people like Houghton manning them and players were paid a living wage, otherwise "investing" is an term I'd use lightly. I agree about few people have a steady good income and opportunites way beyond what is warranted or justified, but there's only a small handful and most of them are the wrong choice.

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