[Match Thread] Zimbabwe vs India (World Cup Pool B)

[Googly]

It would be a great place to start an investigation and get this cleaned up once and for all. I'd also like to see an investigation into U19 selections, especially for the last World Cup, as well. I have also had some grave doubts over many age group selections over the years.

[jimmylesaint]

It would be a great place to start an investigation and get this cleaned up once and for all. I'd also like to see an investigation into U19 selections, especially for the last World Cup, as well. I have also had some grave doubts over many age group selections over the years.

We working on selections to be more meritocratic then nepocratic or monetarycratic(yes i just made up some words). Selectors will have to justify and account for their selections--- or be sacked from the selection committe.

[gargamel]

for age group cricket its a known fact you need 5 or 6 guys from wealthy families or businesses have to chip in to guarantee a spot in the squad . The guys will also foot the bill for flights and part of their accomodation .its sad that the white folk foot the bill in their desperation to get their kids scholarships which require some form of age group cricket

[jimmylesaint]

its sad that the white folk foot the bill in their desperation to get their kids scholarships which require some form of age group cricket

This is true- and not exclusive to white folk either.
Schools are our foundations and recommendations should come from them-with stats- then the selectors should choose.

[Googly]

Nick's father says he is very bitter that he wasn't given the car option for a World Cup berth. Apparently the only money he was asked to contribute was to get a spin coach from SA to come up here for a clinic, but he was short of money at the time and made an excuse. He says he also lent one chap some bucks for school fees as a favor and was repaid the following month, but that was this year when Nick had already left for England. That strikes me as a personal favor as opposed to a bribe, since the horse had already bolted. Also he says there are 4 other players on better English scholarships than Nick who haven't been near a First Class or List A game so the 10k would not make sense. He says Nick was offered one full scholarship on the strength of his CV prior to having played his first franchise game and two lesser ones after he had played franchise. He painfully opted for the lowest scholarship from a school that allowed him to start in January this year as opposed to September, which is when English schools start, so he could get straight into the English cricket season without too long a break, but meant he had to catch up nearly 4 months of schoolwork. Apparently he's doing a sports diploma and gambling it all on a professional cricketing career. Go big or go home!! He says in order to get Nick noticed for franchise when he was 14 turning 15 he organized many bowling sessions with fringe franchise players (which he paid for) so they would start talking and then when he was going reasonably confidently he asked Ian Tinker to speak to Mangongo and they set up a session with the Eagles bowlers and Vittori. I personally saw that session and it's why I can tell you with confidence that Nick is an extraordinary young man with a bright future because it was fire and brimstone that came his way. It was an extraordinary 45 minutes that the people who were there will not forget.
He had been at the English school for only one week and was sent to The Oval for assessment by Graham Ford and Alec Stewart and is now practicing with the top Surrey players on a weekly basis and has been included in their trials in April. He will play for his school during their season to fulfill his scholarship obligations but will probably be included in the Surrey age group, County Seconds and Academy cricket from July onwards. He has been asked to stay in England for the two month summer break in order to play the higher levels of cricket.

[Googly]

That 5 white guy story you've got going there is a gross distortion of the truth. There was a period where if those guys hadn't offered money there would have been no end of year tour whatsoever because ZC were either unwilling or unable to fund them. The only sad part of that was that some really good players had to make way for the customary quota players to make up the numbers.

[Googly]

I doubt it was desperation to get scholarships, but more wanting their boys to play the SA provinces once a year as has been tradition for the last 50 years but was being denied by ZC's racism and incompetence. I'm glad they paid because it at least allowed 5 or 6 deserving players to go instead of 13 undeserving ones. I've seen ZC's selection policies first hand for years and they are why we are way beyond the point of no return. You still haven't figured it out have you Gargamel?

[Googly]

In fact I can tell you emphatically that it most instances it was an attempt to keep the show on the road, so when/if things took a turn for the better there would be an opportunity for their sons to proudly walk out and represent their Country at International level in Zimbabwean colors, not sneak off for a scholarship!! The scholarship bolt hole has been used once or twice in the past but is gathering momentum as ZC slides further and further past the point of no return. Not only ZC but the schools themselves, they can't arrange enough decent games against strong sides because there aren't any and the Ministry won't allow them to. This is in every single sport, not just cricket and it's no longer a white tactic. Go and find out how many black kids are on rugby scholarships in SA, there are plenty! Not many cricketers though, and not because the opportunities are not there but because as a general rule they are just not good enough to be offered one. Stop posting untruthful stuff, you run the risk of KFC outkast believing you.

[Googly]

And the scholarship thing is an option for players of any sport (rugby, cricket, swimming, soccer, tennis, golf, hockey, triathlon, biathlon, cycling etc etc) to go and play in the real world against proper opposition with proper coaching and facilities and make a name for themselves and have some fun doing what they are good at and using their skills to also further their education because secondary and tertiary education barely exists beyond a laughable level in this country because it's not only cricket that the Gov policies have completely smashed into the ground. These same athletes are held in high regard when they represent Zimbabwe on the world stage, except of course for white cricketers, whom you have a sneering opinion of if they opt not to treated like second class citizens and employees by a bunch of inept and corrupt thieves.

[SpitfiresKent]

Thanks for the insight on Nick Welch Googly. Can you elaborate a bit more on that net session he had with the Eagles?

You seem to have good knowledge of the younger ZIM players, what's the status of both Bentley and Byrom?

Also, have you seen Tinashe Nenhunzi play? I've heard he's good.