Kyle v Keegan

[eugene]

If Jarvis is good enough now why should he have to play a specific number of first class cricket matches? Shane Bond was selected for NZ after very few first class games and Daniel Vettori was selected after half a season I seem to recall. The argument over Jarvis' inclusion should be based on if he is good enough - not how many first class matches he has played.

[FlowerPower]

If Jarvis is good enough now why should he have to play a specific number of first class cricket matches? Shane Bond was selected for NZ after very few first class games and Daniel Vettori was selected after half a season I seem to recall. The argument over Jarvis' inclusion should be based on if he is good enough - not how many first class matches he has played.

Rather if he is the best option available and with limited FC we cant say much about Jarvis but Meth has done enough to convince...having said that had Jarvis gotten the 3 or 4 his havig gone at 4 wouldnt matter...but that didnt happen unfortunately. Hypothetically had Meth bowled and been himself even without wickets would have had more control. For me Jarvis is like having a V8 in Jhbg traffic very powerful but you really dont need it nor will ever be able to flex its muscle...poor example but hope it helps my point

[shumbat]

If Jarvis is good enough now why should he have to play a specific number of first class cricket matches? Shane Bond was selected for NZ after very few first class games and Daniel Vettori was selected after half a season I seem to recall. The argument over Jarvis' inclusion should be based on if he is good enough - not how many first class matches he has played.

Rather if he is the best option available and with limited FC we cant say much about Jarvis but Meth has done enough to convince...having said that had Jarvis gotten the 3 or 4 his havig gone at 4 wouldnt matter...but that didnt happen unfortunately. Hypothetically had Meth bowled and been himself even without wickets would have had more control. For me Jarvis is like having a V8 in Jhbg traffic very powerful but you really dont need it nor will ever be able to flex its muscle...poor example but hope it helps my point

i would have picked Meth myself, but i guess it was a matter of gameplan when picking between the 2. As we have seen Jarvis and Vitori opening the bowling then Chigs and Mpofu coming in. I'M sure the next test in Byo Meth would definately be in.

[wicor]

i would have picked Meth myself, but i guess it was a matter of gameplan when picking between the 2. As we have seen Jarvis and Vitori opening the bowling then Chigs and Mpofu coming in. I'M sure the next test in Byo Meth would definately be in.

Bowlers have been very good in this test, why change a successful line up?

[FlowerPower]

We'll see after the second innings. If Jarvis can prise out a couple of BD batsmen in round two, and Zim win, he'll get to stick around. If he gets 0 for 65 and we lose, he will be under quite a bit of pressure from Meth.

Exactly what I would like to avoid, I am great admirer of young Kyle, and exactly what I dread would happen, and also think of his confidence, whereas if this all happened in FC then its fine international and he goes for no wickets, he'd need to be a big character to come back for more...whereas Meth is tried and trusted, and more importantly and to the point even if he uncharacteristically didnt take any wickets, he would walk away with tight figures as a fall back...

[shumbat]

i would have picked Meth myself, but i guess it was a matter of gameplan when picking between the 2. As we have seen Jarvis and Vitori opening the bowling then Chigs and Mpofu coming in. I'M sure the next test in Byo Meth would definately be in.

Bowlers have been very good in this test, why change a successful line up?

I wouldn't want to change the bowlers especially if they go on to do so well in the 2nd innings, its only that the next test is in QSC, and Mpofu did well when he got the 2nd new ball. QSC, being Mpofu and Meth home territory they might have an advantage. Meth can also offer runs in the lower order on his day, so if the lwr order collapses tomorrow they might factor this in, in the next test.

[hhm]

.... the next test is in QSC, and Mpofu did well when he got the 2nd new ball. QSC, being Mpofu and Meth home territory they might have an advantage. Meth can also offer runs in the lower order on his day, so if the lwr order collapses tomorrow they might factor this in, in the next test.

It's a no-brainer! But our selectors seldom apply logic in their reasoning!

[FlowerPower]

Despite having started the whole debate...and would still have gone for the cautious option of Meth, and now that Jarvis has proved his worth...I believe Meth is more a ready made replacement for Mpofu (not saying Mpofu needs replacement but should he..due to injury or loss of form then Keegan fits the bill). Or in cases of flat pitches (read Asia) we may want Mpofu and Meth and one of Vitori and Jarvis...not both...

[FlowerPower]

I dont think Meth is a good option for Asia, without swing, on roads, he'll struggle to penetrate. He will be well suited to NZ conditions and May in England, which is when Zim would get a game there. In asia we'll play the extra spinner or two.

Ok fair enough but thought his control would be better suited than Vitori and Jarvis who despite their obvious threats would go for runs but if idea is to drop one of them for either Pro or Creamer fair call...darn what does Meth have to do to get in!