Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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andrea lanzoni wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:43 pm
The roaring crowds that packed both Bulawayo and Harare stands, seem to have undesrstood it. They applaude Williams and Raza which are all but black africans.
Please give those crowds new national stars (regardless the colour of the skin).
Thank you for saying this 👏👏👏

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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andrea lanzoni wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:43 pm

Watching this qualifier on TV I see that 99.99% of the crowd, which packed the stands, is made by black africans. White africans (at least from what I've seen on TV) were less than a dozen people. Some of them siblings of the players.
This really really doesn't matter, and your point is still correct, but for the record there were at leat 500 or so in attendance for the Windies match last weekend.

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Racism lol, sure the fans do not care one bit so long as the results come. Raza and Burl replica jerseys are the ones you see the most of, tells you enough.

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Absolutely. It’s a very different era. Most people have moved on.

Well, until we go on a losing streak maybe :lol: But generally fans don’t give a shit which color the players are. Thankfully it’s 2023 and not 2003 hey

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:42 pm
Jesus wept. One bad match (the first in a really long time) and we are back to the race discussion?

Lots of nonsense posted on the last few pages here. Thankfully it seems the team and - dare I say it - potentially ZC a a whole, has moved on.
I was thinking the same. I'm not even Zimbabwean buy it feels bad that one defeat and the race discussions have started.

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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TapsC2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:35 pm
For me my honest issue with Chatara is that he can't bat. At this very moment he picks up more wickets than Evans which by definition actually makes him a better bowler but I just feel you need a number 9 who can bat a bit in the modern game, especially when you are playing a stronger team. This is why I would have picked him.

The other problem Evans faces is that as it stands, Jongwe is a better batsman and he also has a knack if picking wickets randomly so he is in all honesty the better pick against stronger teams and on pitches which don't offer much for the fast bowlers.

I would say Evans is actually in the same position as Wes and co where he has a lot of things he needs to work on
I don’t agree that Jongwe is better than Evans. He averages less than 15 with the bat and close to 40 with the ball if you take out that 5 for 6 against Afghanistan before they were a top 10 team.

Evans has a five for against India, and if he gets as many games as Jongwe can surely average more than 15 with the bat.
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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Xlife wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:31 am



Correct... this forum has a tendency to overrate mediocre white players, it's a trend going back years.
Chigumbura, Hamilton M, Jongwe, Wellington M, Madhevere, Marumani have all been over-hyped as well.
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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Pat_Bee wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:23 pm
Tawanda Muyeye had to leave for Kent because he couldn’t get a game in the white dominated ZC set up lol.
Muyeye just banged 170 odd. His first century. Such a loss. Its his own doing though. He doesn't care about us

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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All I care about is beating Scotland right now. Everything else can be discussed later.

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:08 pm
TapsC2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:35 pm
For me my honest issue with Chatara is that he can't bat. At this very moment he picks up more wickets than Evans which by definition actually makes him a better bowler but I just feel you need a number 9 who can bat a bit in the modern game, especially when you are playing a stronger team. This is why I would have picked him.

The other problem Evans faces is that as it stands, Jongwe is a better batsman and he also has a knack if picking wickets randomly so he is in all honesty the better pick against stronger teams and on pitches which don't offer much for the fast bowlers.

I would say Evans is actually in the same position as Wes and co where he has a lot of things he needs to work on
I don’t agree that Jongwe is better than Evans. He averages less than 15 with the bat and close to 40 with the ball if you take out that 5 for 6 against Afghanistan before they were a top 10 team.

Evans has a five for against India, and if he gets as many games as Jongwe can surely average more than 15 with the bat.
We will see. Time will tell. All I know is that Jongwe can bat. His biggest enemy is himself but if he was really motivated he would shock people.

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