Streak and Technical Team given notice

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googly spot on.
Resign so we pay you nothing but you may have a chance to be re hired in our most wonderful world class organisation.

Please no one resign, you have been humiliatingly fired and deserve due process by the labour act, your contract paid out immediately, cost of your lawyers paid for and damages to your dignity and integrity($10m) each!
This zc board are a bunch of cowboys lead by a snake oil salesman. Hit them where it hurts in the wallet!!! Force them to file bankruptcy!

Faisal being the MD has to relate the Board resolutions hence he emailed the decision by the board. It's not his decision.
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Of course they will be rehired, there’s no one else. Also would they want some of those guys with no terminal benefits now running to the press with a kiss and tell exposé. Of course they’d implicate themselves but when you’ve got nothing to lose....
100% this Husnain fellow is fucking useless. Firstly he clearly gets shepherded away from anyone with shit to say about ZC, and he seems happy with that arrangement.
Secondly he’s doing nothing about the woeful and top heavy administration. As I said, he’s at best window dressing, much like Taibu and the other guys who’ve lent credence to the regime. You need 5 or 6 people to manage the entire country, that’s all!
ICC would never have sent a white guy either, because ZC would just pull the tried and tested card. I guarantee they sent this guy who had no prior knowledge of what goes on here, other than watered down bullshit reports furnished to ICC by Godknowswho. What’s stopping them saying “here’s your new board, take it or leave it!”
I’d like to see someone like Andy Flower or Houghton at the helm with a sharp accountant and maybe one other with cricket adminstrative skills and business acumen. You don’t need anyone else other than maybe two good P.A’s.
They could pick a small team and we’d be back in the game. It’s actually that simple, this business of creating employment for unemployable people has to stop.
If you have some development coach that hasn’t produced a single worthwhile cricketer in 20 years please ban him from all forms of coaching or cricket. There are coprporste divisions and loads of people within ZC that don’t do more than an hour’s worth of work ina whole week.

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This may sound stupid, so go easy. But if ICC were willing to send Hossain to be their representative, can't they take full control of ZC? Surely if they want to save the team they have to step in somehow. They probably wouldn't care that much if Zim disappeared, but if the debt is still like $3mil then wouldn't they want to get that back? At this rate, how is that ever going to happen unless they get involved?

Honestly, I know barely anything about the administrative side of this and I don't want to badmouth any of them cause some might be doing their jobs (or not, IDK) but I genuinely enjoy watching this team play and it's frustrating that all this has to go on in the background.

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Googly wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:22 pm
Of course they will be rehired, there’s no one else. Also would they want some of those guys with no terminal benefits now running to the press with a kiss and tell exposé. Of course they’d implicate themselves but when you’ve got nothing to lose....
100% this Husnain fellow is fucking useless. Firstly he clearly gets shepherded away from anyone with shit to say about ZC, and he seems happy with that arrangement.
Secondly he’s doing nothing about the woeful and top heavy administration. As I said, he’s at best window dressing, much like Taibu and the other guys who’ve lent credence to the regime. You need 5 or 6 people to manage the entire country, that’s all!
ICC would never have sent a white guy either, because ZC would just pull the tried and tested card. I guarantee they sent this guy who had no prior knowledge of what goes on here, other than watered down bullshit reports furnished to ICC by Godknowswho. What’s stopping them saying “here’s your new board, take it or leave it!”
I’d like to see someone like Andy Flower or Houghton at the helm with a sharp accountant and maybe one other with cricket adminstrative skills and business acumen. You don’t need anyone else other than maybe two good P.A’s.
They could pick a small team and we’d be back in the game. It’s actually that simple, this business of creating employment for unemployable people has to stop.
If you have some development coach that hasn’t produced a single worthwhile cricketer in 20 years please ban him from all forms of coaching or cricket. There are coprporste divisions and loads of people within ZC that don’t do more than an hour’s worth of work ina whole week.
https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/20 ... -to-resign

Mangongo seems to be refusing as well. That is interesting. What I find hilarious is how said that the Indian u19 team would beat our senior side :lol: :lol: he is fuming.. if he refused that means he cant get rehired. Got a feeling Prosper is one of the guys who resigned. He looks like the guy who knows hows to manipulate the system he might even be made u19 coach

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Prosper hasn’t got a coaching certificate, at most he should be pushing the heavy roller under supervision, not sure what he has to offer. Certificate tampering is right up there with ball tampering, why has he not been fired a long time ago?

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Googly wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:28 pm
Prosper hasn’t got a coaching certificate, at most he should be pushing the heavy roller under supervision, not sure what he has to offer. Certificate tampering is right up there with ball tampering, why has he not been fired a long time ago?
Well, he most likely tampered with the certificate to get hired for this precise position. Why would they be firing him? :lol: :lol: .Or even better, they probably asked him to at least bring a tampered certificate in the first place so that he could be given that position.

Yeah, he could very well be in line for the next U19 coach minimally. Scary.

At this rate, a few years down the line, we would probably be in such sad state that even this coaching lineup might excite us. Malcolm Waller as head coach with Timycen Maruma as batting coach, Tafadzwa Kamungozi as bowling coach and Gus Mackay could come back to Zimbabwe in fielding coach's capacity. Hilary Matanga or Rememberence Nyathi could take up the analyst and mentor roles too...

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CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:19 pm
Googly wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:28 pm
Prosper hasn’t got a coaching certificate, at most he should be pushing the heavy roller under supervision, not sure what he has to offer. Certificate tampering is right up there with ball tampering, why has he not been fired a long time ago?
Well, he most likely tampered with the certificate to get hired for this precise position. Why would they be firing him? :lol: :lol: .Or even better, they probably asked him to at least bring a tampered certificate in the first place so that he could be given that position.

Yeah, he could very well be in line for the next U19 coach minimally. Scary.

At this rate, a few years down the line, we would probably be in such sad state that even this coaching lineup might excite us. Malcolm Waller as head coach with Timycen Maruma as batting coach, Tafadzwa Kamungozi as bowling coach and Gus Mackay could come back to Zimbabwe in fielding coach's capacity. Hilary Matanga or Rememberence Nyathi could take up the analyst and mentor roles too...
Oh God, don't write things like that. I remember ten years ago we were somewhat jokingly writing about how we were heading toward losing to teams like UAE and Afghanistan.
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Honestly Mangongo has no class even the way he talks he sounds like a thug

He claims in that article the aim of that tour was to beat all the associates and hopefully get an upset over Aus or India, which I think was fair enough. But ZC said he promised them a top 4 finish, I don't know who to believe but I'd tend to think Steve isn't stupid enough to think he could have gotten a top 4 finish, even if we didn't get pooled with India & Aus we would have ran into them before the semi's.

Either way the quote about the board needing to "Get their heads examined" is although probably true and many of us feel the same way, you can't have a national coach talking like that lol no class at all

Also the quote about the Indian and Aus 19's side beating the Zim national side was also a low blow that again is ok for fans and the public to say but from a national coach is poor again

I do feel bad for Steve getting sacked as he is a gun who definitely wants Zimbabwe to succeed and although I'm not a fan of him you can't argue his passion and love for the side. In saying this I don't think he was sacked because the national side failed surely ZC aren't that stupid they can't tell the difference between the two :lol: :lol: :lol: But he has been in charge of the 19's for two world cups and although we have seen some good kids come through we've come 10th & 11th so he can't really say he has done that good a job.
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Clearly, in most pre-U19 world cup interviews, what Mangongo talked about was that the previous batch had set a benchmark and these guys would be expected to do better than them. As it turned out, they fell slightly below the previous team. 10th and 11th places aren't great but better show than the previous two outings for sure, and let's face it, a true reflection of where cricket stands in the country. I'd probably say we even overachieved a bit in the last two editions. We were one no-ball / Mankad away from entering the main draw instead of playing for the plate. We actually deserved to be in the top 8 but that's what happened. The Zim crowd took revenge when Keemo PAul played in Zim and that's good.

And even with all his passion and hubris, I don't think Mangongo would have promised a top 4 finish. For me, he has done a very commendable job at this level. He even talked about why our results are bad by pointing fingers at how bad the schools cricket system is, which probably would have irked the powers that be - that he was sitting in NZ and criticizing things back home. That could have been the final nail in the coffin in addition to the money saving aspect.

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Where would Mangongo be best suited in the ZC setup??? He really hasn’t had much success coaching but his is a very passionate man who loves Zimbabwe. As I said I’m not a fan due to his antics and his poor man management skills but surely there is some use for him in the system somewhere ??
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