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sloandog wrote:**sigh**, going down the gary Ballance route. How are we expected to be competitive at international level if our home grown talents are leaving. Look no further than Ryan Burl and Malcolm Lake! Probably the two best batters in the under 19's side, and they gone!

hhm wrote:SO WHAT IS THIS CHAOS?
That entirely depends on whether one believes it is there, if not it soon shall. I only hope that I am not misunderstood. Whilst acknowledging the implications of the unfavourable conditions which prevailed for a period, progress has been and continues to be made, and racial integration has been embraced. No doubt everyone is entitled to how they want to live their life and undertake their careers and means of sustenance, but that white players continue to side-line national responsibilities while chasing uncertainties to represent other nations is unbearable and unforgivable.

Credit should be given to the likes of Taylor, Waller and Craig Ervine, while exception can also be made towards the likes Sean Ervine who are a little bit older now and probably have family commitments. But what of Ireland, Ballance, de Grandhomme and Cameron? Were it not for selection to represent Zimbabwean junior teams would they be where they are now? I strongly doubt it. Yet they 'raped' the system to their personal benefit.

It’s not to say that their black peers are/were inferior, for the majority delivered better performances and achieved greater recognition in those junior tournaments. What dictated the course of fortune was colour, contacts and status in life. On the one hand one has the talent, means and knows the right people, while being of the right colour to fit into the English cricket system (which in itself is not at all dominated by black people of British descent), while on the other hand one has talent and nothing else! All of this evokes the desire for a strict preference to develop and expose black players, since they will bear with what lies ahead for their nation. Perhaps a clause should be included stating that all players black or white, who represent Zimbabwe at U19 level, and sign up for any franchise in domestic cricket, will never be allowed to enter into any contract which puts any cricket commitments outside of this country ahead of national commitments.

In that case it will be evident that any individual or individual’s parents who refuse that kind of arrangement has selfish or insincere objectives and thus does not deserve the time and effort which will be invested in him under the banner of Zimbabwe. A lot of people take it for granted that they have grown out of a cricketing nation which is a Full Member and that brings along many benefits which should be maintained or improved upon to ensure that future generations can benefit as well. I just wonder how many of the whites who played in the 2008 and 2010 under 19 World Cups who will in the next 5 years be creating similar dilemas despite having little significant to complain about. If the bone of contention is about money or contracts then it must also mean that the black players(and some of the white players) who are still here must have a far much lower view of themselves and their worth in comparison. Keep in mind that the Irish have no Test status, and the Saffers have plenty of quality to throw around while England has little apparently!

sloandog wrote:**sigh**, going down the gary Ballance route. How are we expected to be competitive at international level if our home grown talents are leaving. Look no further than Ryan Burl and Malcolm Lake! Probably the two best batters in the under 19's side, and they gone!

ZIMDOGGY wrote:

sloandog wrote:**sigh**, going down the gary Ballance route. How are we expected to be competitive at international level if our home grown talents are leaving. Look no further than Ryan Burl and Malcolm Lake! Probably the two best batters in the under 19's side, and they gone!

i have heard this before but where is it said they have bailed?

maehara wrote:You know you're doomed when an Associate side is being seen as a better draw than a Full Member Test nation.