Jarvis and Cremer are still the best strike bowlers ZIM have. Chatara and Panyangara arent strike bowlers so much as bowl a meter outside off stump with a 7-2 field and wait for the batsman to get impatient. Its evident from their strike rates and bowling economy.pariah wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:04 amKriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:32 amChatara has a career Test bowling econ of 2.5...I can't think of any bowler apart from Jadeja who has a lower econ rate. Jarvis is expensive and Cremer tends to be as well (most wrist spinners are).Lovely to see guys taking turns to agree with me.CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:10 amIf Chatara is fit and has the ability to bowl 15-20 overs in a day, he is the first bowler on the team sheets across formats.
There was a needlessly big argument recently with people refuting that overall Chatara is ahead of Jarvis. What a waste that was.
Your XI for Boxing Day
-
- Posts: 7325
- Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:41 am
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYq6auq5cyQ (Jaylen Brown, 2024 NBA Finals MVP)
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
So we've moved from "bowlers" to "strike bowlers" according to Kriterion's criteria...Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:29 pmJarvis and Cremer are still the best strike bowlers ZIM have. Chatara and Panyangara arent strike bowlers so much as bowl a meter outside off stump with a 7-2 field and wait for the batsman to get impatient. Its evident from their strike rates and bowling economy.pariah wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:04 amKriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:32 am
Chatara has a career Test bowling econ of 2.5...I can't think of any bowler apart from Jadeja who has a lower econ rate. Jarvis is expensive and Cremer tends to be as well (most wrist spinners are).Lovely to see guys taking turns to agree with me.CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:10 amIf Chatara is fit and has the ability to bowl 15-20 overs in a day, he is the first bowler on the team sheets across formats.
There was a needlessly big argument recently with people refuting that overall Chatara is ahead of Jarvis. What a waste that was.
.
.
NB: I'm just trying to think of a current Test XI from other countries which has a strike bowling spinner(doesn't have to be legspin) and strike bowling seamer.
- Andybligzz
- Posts: 789
- Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:07 am
- Supports: MidWest Rhinos
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
Easy , Pakistan with yasir shah and wahab riaz , both are strike bowlers who rarely bowl the same ball two deliveries in a row.pariah wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:53 pmSo we've moved from "bowlers" to "strike bowlers" according to Kriterion's criteria...Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:29 pmJarvis and Cremer are still the best strike bowlers ZIM have. Chatara and Panyangara arent strike bowlers so much as bowl a meter outside off stump with a 7-2 field and wait for the batsman to get impatient. Its evident from their strike rates and bowling economy.
.
.
NB: I'm just trying to think of a current Test XI from other countries which has a strike bowling spinner(doesn't have to be legspin) and strike bowling seamer.
Last edited by Andybligzz on Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
The Zimbabwe Cricket team have found Ebola in one of their members, but they're not concerned because they have also found Ebatsmen and Efielda!
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
Nathan Lyon is a strike bowler for the aussies too. They don't just bring him on to dry up the runs.
- Andybligzz
- Posts: 789
- Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:07 am
- Supports: MidWest Rhinos
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
Bishoo and Gabriel are both strike bowlers as well pariah you really speak some diareha
The Zimbabwe Cricket team have found Ebola in one of their members, but they're not concerned because they have also found Ebatsmen and Efielda!
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
Playing defensive bowlers in Tests is pointless
But if you ask Hhm figures if 0/39 off 30 overs is better than 5/50 off 10.
I know which figures I’d rather have
But if you ask Hhm figures if 0/39 off 30 overs is better than 5/50 off 10.
I know which figures I’d rather have
Chairman of the Neville Madziva fan Club
Originator of the #mumbamania movement
Originator of the #mumbamania movement
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
My lineup
1. Mire
2. Ham
3. Chamu
4. BT
5. Craig
6. Raza
7. Burl
8. Cremer
9. Jarvis
10. Chatara
11. Mpofu/Muzarabani (don’t care)
Vs what I think they’ll go with
1. Ham
2. Mire
3. Craig
4. BT
5. Raza
6. Burl
7. Regis
8. Cremer
9. Jarvis
10. Mpofu
11. Muzarabani
Going in without Chamu and Chatara is madness in my opinion. Merry Christmas
1. Mire
2. Ham
3. Chamu
4. BT
5. Craig
6. Raza
7. Burl
8. Cremer
9. Jarvis
10. Chatara
11. Mpofu/Muzarabani (don’t care)
Vs what I think they’ll go with
1. Ham
2. Mire
3. Craig
4. BT
5. Raza
6. Burl
7. Regis
8. Cremer
9. Jarvis
10. Mpofu
11. Muzarabani
Going in without Chamu and Chatara is madness in my opinion. Merry Christmas
- Black Mamba
- Posts: 996
- Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:55 am
- Supports: Matabeleland Tuskers
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
Hamilton Masakadza, Solomon Mire, Craig Ervine, Brendan Taylor (wk), Ryan Burl, Sikandar Raza, Peter Moor, Graeme Cremer (capt), Kyle Jarvis, Tendai Chatara/Chris Mpofu, Blessing Muzarabani.
http://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-commentar ... frica-2017
http://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-commentar ... frica-2017
-
- Posts: 7325
- Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:41 am
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
Wahab Riaz is not a strike bowler. Even Amir is not a strike bowler anymore.
Yasir Shah is, but most wrist spinners are.
Yasir Shah is, but most wrist spinners are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYq6auq5cyQ (Jaylen Brown, 2024 NBA Finals MVP)
Re: Your XI for Boxing Day
I sense an argument and new thread with loads of data from Kriterion to determine what ‘defines’ a strike bowler.Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:20 pmWahab Riaz is not a strike bowler. Even Amir is not a strike bowler anymore.
Yasir Shah is, but most wrist spinners are.
Chairman of the Neville Madziva fan Club
Originator of the #mumbamania movement
Originator of the #mumbamania movement