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Re: No longer blessed

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jontym87 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:25 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:05 pm
Haha.
I told you I told you i told you.
Chalking this down to another ‘Dogg prophecy.

I don’t even need to know the details.

The fact if the matter is, you put poor young Zimbabwean kids in London for half a year. You exposed them to the first world and they were sitting ducks for poaching attempts.
Did they really not think that these kids weren’t going to get a taste for the country? And not make moves in the background? Even get gfs that could become wives? Do you think that Randomshire CC on the outskirts of London weren’t going to take a shot at a talented underpaid youngster?
They were only in England because that’s where Taibu (who himself tasted the British life) didn’t want to move to Zim.

That said,
I think blessing is making a mistake.
When will these young Zimbos understand that you are nothing until you are someone on the stage and there is not a better route to the big stage than in Zim. You can do the hard yards in a club system and hope you are noticed or you can make a few memorable knocks at the world t20 and make it into the big money that way.

I recently had the pleasure of speaking to a zimbo who is now in oz. It is not easy for a zimbo to get a visa to Australia. This particular person could only come to Aus because he has a lot of international experience.
That’s just one other example of why you need to be in the big leagues to make it.
Zim cricket is the perfect platform.
Yet everything in Zim is fucked. A cursed land.
Enough of BS. I have explained everything in a different post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15142. Blessing Muzarabani has signed a 3 year County deal with Northamptonshire. He has gone the Kolpak route.
Relax I saw your post.
My post still stands up.
These kids went to England and gave both sides a platform to lose them to England.
Because Taibu moves to England.
You also are ‘lost’ to England.
So you can see the temptation.

Taibu dangled the pizza in front of the fat kids.
One of the fat kids took a bite.
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Re: No longer blessed

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:53 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:05 pm
Haha.
I told you I told you i told you.
Chalking this down to another ‘Dogg prophecy.

I don’t even need to know the details.

The fact if the matter is, you put poor young Zimbabwean kids in London for half a year. You exposed them to the first world and they were sitting ducks for poaching attempts.
Did they really not think that these kids weren’t going to get a taste for the country? And not make moves in the background? Even get gfs that could become wives? Do you think that Randomshire CC on the outskirts of London weren’t going to take a shot at a talented underpaid youngster?
They were only in England because that’s where Taibu (who himself tasted the British life) didn’t want to move to Zim.

That said,
I think blessing is making a mistake.
When will these young Zimbos understand that you are nothing until you are someone on the stage and there is not a better route to the big stage than in Zim. You can do the hard yards in a club system and hope you are noticed or you can make a few memorable knocks at the world t20 and make it into the big money that way.

I recently had the pleasure of speaking to a zimbo who is now in oz. It is not easy for a zimbo to get a visa to Australia. This particular person could only come to Aus because he has a lot of international experience.
That’s just one other example of why you need to be in the big leagues to make it.
Zim cricket is the perfect platform.
Yet everything in Zim is fucked. A cursed land.
This forum never ceases to amaze me with the confusing and bizarre posts it can churn up.

Why wouldn't anyone want to move to a land where there is more opportunity and less hassle? Do you like working in your job, not getting paid, and then having to live in a country where the government continually screws you over?

Nothing wrong with becoming keen with the english lifestyle or Britain. If a random club notices a talented youngster and is willing to offer him a liveable wage (paid on time) quality development and a competitive cricket, then why should he not take it. Zim cant even pay its players on time, have a proper domestic structure, and compete against associates, let alone the big boys.

He clearly did not need to have any experience to secure the deal and if a British club can see his talent and be able to nurture it in the way it should be, then so be it. Rather be nothing in a county scene, earning good money on time, and enjoying excellent facilities and coaching and a good lifestyle, than giving your all for your nation only for it to treat you like dirt and filth.
I’m not understanding why you’ve framed your response to mine in a way as if the content disagreed with my post?
You’ve actually seconded my point.
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Re: No longer blessed

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:59 pm
First black player to get a Kolpak.

If he struggles, he might not get a contract renewal in 3 years and might return like Jarvis. Zimbabwe can still form a decent pace attack with KJ, Mumba, and Chatara for both formats.

Was surprised that blessing only has 18 ODI wickets from 18 games at an average of over 40. I felt like he was taking 2-3 wickets in every match.
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Re: No longer blessed

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:59 pm
First black player to get a Kolpak.
In my mind this was only a matter of time once I learnt from this forum a year ago that there was nothing stopping a Blackie from getting a a Kolpak contract.
I used to think previously you needed British or EU heritage. You don’t. They could take Chatara and moody too if they wanted!
I’ve always said that we are kneecapped, becausecif we ever unearth a genuine superstar, a few English Bobby’s will just offer absurd money and take them from us. That’s why we can only hope for Craig ervines and Sean Williams quality players, who can perform internationally but not good enough to be on any poaching radar.

The ICC has to step in somehow. It’s wrong. Morally and for the health of world cricket. What’s worse is Ireland and Dutch players can happily play county cricket and international with no issues. If Ed Joyce signed with 4 county teams in 4 years he wouldn’t miss a game for Ireland. Yet the Zimboks can’t. Blessing can’t do both.
The kolpak system must be abolished. I know it’s hard but ffs. Even if things were good in Zim we can never grow.
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Re: No longer blessed

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I agree Dogg. The system has to change from the other direction, I think. Zim needs an exemption. It is not like we are going to flood county cricket with a bunch of international super stars. The odd Taylor or Jarvis playing there and for Zim won't hurt anyone.

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Googly wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:44 pm
I’m confused.
ZC really needed to hang onto him.
Did he hang around long enough to talk about his new ZC contract and not like what he heard?
I don’t see his county contract being more than £7k a month so that means ZC were offering him less than that, plus of course they don’t usually pay.
They will get him fitter and stronger and bowling better , that’s for sure. Blessing won’t know what’s hit him because County is intense and he’s used to long periods of doing diddly.

This is a very very poor message from the ZC thieves.
This really is a slap in the face to them but they deserve it. At least they cant play the race card this time.There is a bigger storm brewing even with their usual "black comrades". Just check when the Afghanistan t20 league is compared to our next tours and you might get what I mean.

A small part of me would also want Tari and Burl to do the same kind of deal so that they refine their talent. They just seem to not be developing quickly enough.

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Re: No longer blessed

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TapsC wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:33 am
Googly wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:44 pm
I’m confused.
ZC really needed to hang onto him.
Did he hang around long enough to talk about his new ZC contract and not like what he heard?
I don’t see his county contract being more than £7k a month so that means ZC were offering him less than that, plus of course they don’t usually pay.
They will get him fitter and stronger and bowling better , that’s for sure. Blessing won’t know what’s hit him because County is intense and he’s used to long periods of doing diddly.

This is a very very poor message from the ZC thieves.
This really is a slap in the face to them but they deserve it. At least they cant play the race card this time.There is a bigger storm brewing even with their usual "black comrades". Just check when the Afghanistan t20 league is compared to our next tours and you might get what I mean.

A small part of me would also want Tari and Burl to do the same kind of deal so that they refine their talent. They just seem to not be developing quickly enough.
alot of zimbos actually get worse as they grow and develop experience.
Hammy, Vusi etc
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Re: No longer blessed

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:04 am

I’m not understanding why you’ve framed your response to mine in a way as if the content disagreed with my post?
You’ve actually seconded my point.
I feel like maybe you don't understand what you've written and how i've responded. Clearly did not second your point.

You want to close off our players to the rest of the cricketing world and restrict them from ever leaving HSC? If Zim cricket was in good shape, no player would take a county deal. Simples.

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Re: No longer blessed

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When BT and Co were making their stand Muzarabani was nowhere to be found, yet he fucks off anyway :lol:
That small fact has been lost on most. Had he joined them it may have persuaded a couple of others to follow suit and we may have had a new board by now.
For ZC to not have done whatever it takes to retain him shows they’ve learnt the square root of fuck all, they still think international calibre cricketers grow on trees.
They will convene a crisis meeting at Elephant Hills in Vic Falls and give themselves a pay rise.
It would be interesting to see which “agent” set this up. Some famous white guy has been mentioned, but there will be someone else also collecting an upfront fee or an ongoing percentage for further fucking up our cricket team and then posting well done Blessing messages.
When the golden boy opts out you have to wonder at the prospects of anyone else making a living here.
People are saying he’s doing the right thing, but that honestly means cricket is dead and buried here.
I guess the spineless remainder will carry on with the domestic season in November so they only have to play every second week because of rain soaked pitches.
The Board Must Fall.

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And people are saying, well at least he’ll get some proper coaching and strength training in a proper outfit, when we have Streak who could get a job in any international side, never mind County, Bell as the Physio, who’s worked in County, Flower who came here and who’s batters put us in a box and everyone is wringing their hands about our staff. It’s mind boggling.
The players need to grow a spine and sit down until this Board is replaced by proper people or we’re dead.
We cannot carry on like this. We cannot start our domestic season in November. The Board Must Fall.

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