Some insights into Muzarabani Kolpak deal

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zimstarr wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:54 am
Blessing has a 3 or 4 year old mixed race baby .he got a british girl pregnant during the rising stars tour i dont think he is coming back to zim again .
3/4 years or 3/4 months? :lol: if this is true then that explains a lot lol

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TapsC wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:26 am
zimstarr wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:54 am
Blessing has a 3 or 4 year old mixed race baby .he got a british girl pregnant during the rising stars tour i dont think he is coming back to zim again .
3/4 years or 3/4 months? :lol: if this is true then that explains a lot lol
I was aware of this, but didn't want to say. Somebody from his club who I know very well told me.

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:28 am
foreignfield wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:26 pm
And yes, I know that you despise all black African cricketers in Zim for not toppling the board, something none of their contemporaries, regardless of colour, have ever tried. He didn't hold up his hand in yet another pay dispute, oh my ..., give me a break. I've explained before why the notion that "the players" could oust the board, install the right people and set ZC on the path to redemption is nothing but a pipe dream -- and that you now constantly blame a kid of 21 (with probably a very modest education behind him, I don't know) for ruining that pipe dream, is not only laughable but indicates the person you like to come across as in this forum.
Im hardly the only one thats been critical about blacks not protesting the board.
Who have we had thats stood up?
Jonty? Official, isnt a player
Taibu?
Only 7 years after not protesting for so long when he could have made a proper impact.
Olonga- was protesting government, still noble.

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Blessing could have recently stood up.
Blessing would have had an impact and shown it wasnt white guys getting racial
Blessing could have stood in solitaridy with his mentor Streak.
Blessing had a job lined up.
Blessing however didnt seem to care.
Please read what I wrote: I said "contemporary" (not guys from the Rebel era), I said "toppling the board"; I was specifically not talking about protests about pay. You shouldn't forget that for example dozens of franchise cricketers of all colours have laid down bats and balls and "protested against the board" in a similar way national team players have fought for their pay. A full-scale player revolt has not happened since the Rebel walk-out, period. But I know whom you will blame for that and what colour of skin you will bring up again, so it's better to stop the conversation here.

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sloandog wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:05 pm
TapsC wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:26 am
zimstarr wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:54 am
Blessing has a 3 or 4 year old mixed race baby .he got a british girl pregnant during the rising stars tour i dont think he is coming back to zim again .
3/4 years or 3/4 months? :lol: if this is true then that explains a lot lol
I was aware of this, but didn't want to say. Somebody from his club who I know very well told me.
Well we genuinely might lose him forever if we are not careful. This perfectly explains why he didnt take the international deal.

Best chance we have is that he marries her so that he gets the right to work in the UK without having to be a kolpak.

No way he will give up his baby and a life in the UK for the mess at ZC. Matters of the heart are tricky. BT and Jarvis moved the opposite way for those same reasons.

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He threw all the principles they were taught during the rising stars tour out the window . Takashinga is producing these ungrateful self entitled cricketers that only think about themselves their only concern is how much money they can get from the game . I know they came from humble beginings its acceptable but you dont have to chase financial returns in a way that damages your integrity .

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It is sad to see the mudslinging going on towards Blessing, and also towards Nick and Taibu, who were on the ground to make something work with ZC even in dire financial circumstances.

No one even in all the history of Zimbabwe Cricket had the maturity to stand up to ZC at the age of 20. Not even Taibu and Taylor when they had a chance. They only did it much later. Sean Ervine at 21 was possibly the youngest to take that step when he went with the rebels, but he had already established a great reputation as a player by then and had established a rapport with the Marshes too...

As Taibu puts it in the article's interview, Blessing could be wrong with the kind of decisions, but he is too young to be able to take the decisions with all things considered, just like Taibu and Taylor were in 2004. So, let's give them their space. and sure hope Nick continues to contribute here...

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CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:20 pm
It is sad to see the mudslinging going on towards Blessing, and also towards Nick and Taibu, who were on the ground to make something work with ZC even in dire financial circumstances.

No one even in all the history of Zimbabwe Cricket had the maturity to stand up to ZC at the age of 20. Not even Taibu and Taylor when they had a chance. They only did it much later. Sean Ervine at 21 was possibly the youngest to take that step when he went with the rebels, but he had already established a great reputation as a player by then and had established a rapport with the Marshes too...

As Taibu puts it in the article's interview, Blessing could be wrong with the kind of decisions, but he is too young to be able to take the decisions with all things considered, just like Taibu and Taylor were in 2004. So, let's give them their space. and sure hope Nick continues to contribute here...
Literally not one person has slung mud at Nick at any point on this forum that I have seen. In fact I displayed disgust at what Blessing did to him. I’m all about loyalty and love between thugs and from what I read, Nick got stiffed. Didn’t like it. However, If Nick wants to leave after one debate (not even an argument) then I hope he does not but what can I do if that is his pain threshold? ZCF is a very docile and easygoing place but at the same time doesn’t hold back If there is an opinion to be shared, and that’s a good thing. People are having a go at me here, also at Eugene, and at Taps the last week I have seen but our instinct isn’t to cry and leave when challenged.
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foreignfield wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:14 pm
Please read what I wrote: I said "contemporary" (not guys from the Rebel era), I said "toppling the board"; I was specifically not talking about protests about pay. You shouldn't forget that for example dozens of franchise cricketers of all colours have laid down bats and balls and "protested against the board" in a similar way national team players have fought for their pay. A full-scale player revolt has not happened since the Rebel walk-out, period. But I know whom you will blame for that and what colour of skin you will bring up again, so it's better to stop the conversation here.
Firstly, I didn’t realise that 2005 was not in the contemporary era. :lol:

Secondly, stop race baiting. That’s three times you’ve tried to turn it racial. You’re a bored German dude, not Hillary Clinton. Stop trying to insert race into arguments where they are not needed. Zimbabweans don’t fall for that tactic in the ‘contemporary era’ and nor does the dawg.
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Taking these youngsters to the UK for months on end is like taking prisoners to the beach for a day and trusting they will return at the end of the day.

There is something fishy about all of this, I think an investigation of Taibu's finances is in order. How is he making a living I wonder? He did seem very keen to parade our young talent around the English club scene. Playing in England made no sense, when does Zimbabwe ever play in England? Take them to Bangladesh, NZ, SA, India or something.
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eugene wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:58 pm
Taking these youngsters to the UK for months on end is like taking prisoners to the beach for a day and trusting they will return at the end of the day.

There is something fishy about all of this, I think an investigation of Taibu's finances is in order. How is he making a living I wonder? He did seem very keen to parade our young talent around the English club scene. Playing in England made no sense, when does Zimbabwe ever play in England? Take them to Bangladesh, NZ, SA, India or something.
I’m going to take a wild guess. Just a guess.
Taibu entered the UK on a religious VIsa.cant remember the name of it, but he was a pastor in Zim, apparently. Isn’t that why he quit Zc?

I think Taibu brought these kids to the UK partly to help but also out of laziness. He lives there. He can oversee the operation when he can walk up the road. He also didn’t visit Zim often, if at all, when convenor of selectors. No doubt this played a part. I still think it’s moronic to hold this in the UK when Zim do not play in the UK. Sa/sub continent is way better an option.

I like to think Taibu didn’t get a kickback as a recruiter for British clubs, but Eugene is hardly the first person to have suspected this.
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