Brendan Taylor appreciation thread

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Googly
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Career M In R NO HS Avg BF SR 100s 50s 4s 6s Ct St
Test 14 28 591 0 93* 21.10 1177 50.21 0 2 86 6 16 0
ODIs 127 126 2994 4 116 24.54 4716 63.48 2 21 328 35 42 0
T20s 26 26 511 1 59 20.44 503 101.5 0 1 52 11 12 0
World Cup 5 5 134 0 67 26.80 163 82.20 0 2 17 1 3

Sorry its a bit scrambled but these are Vusi's stats.
Not dissimilar.
The most frustrating batsman for me, a genuine talent with unbelievable technique.
It just shows that once you get to a certain level the rest of the game is between your ears, he should have been a star if he'd had different thought processes when he was out in the middle.

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There's a common denominator here- a weak FC system.
Taylor seems to be the only guy that found a way around that. He came from an era of very strong schoolboy cricket and had a lot of good coaching and pounded balls as a kid.
He had lean times at the start of his career in a very weak team. With proper structures and senior players his stats would have been in the rarified atmosphere of high 40's.
BT with a club foot, blind in one eye and 30kg overweight would still be our best batsman. :lol:
When he's on song he's as good as anyone.

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:29 am
TapsC2 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:57 am

Elton had a better career than Ervine for me who you have at 10. At his peak he was serious
Seriously dude?

Elton stats:

Test: Ave - 21.07 50s - 4 100s - 0
ODI: Ave - 25.23 50s - 19 100s - 2

Ervine stats:

Test: Ave - 35.52 50s - 4. 100s - 3
ODI: Ave - 31.90 50s - 15 100s - 3

It literally a no contest when you look at the stats. Craig even has better stats in T20s which is meant to be Eltons forte. It's completely a no contest.

We are just going to forget the 138 international wickets Elton took right? I’m talking about Elton at his peak. Not now. The Elton who got a county gig as an international player right. I can tell you now Elton won more games for Zimbabwe than Ervine has

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Yes I think we're going to forget the wickets Chigumbura took because the list was top 10 best batsmen...

Tatenda Taibu might have a shout at top 10 though? Had a better test average than Alistair Campbell and Grant Flower.

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Googly wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:51 am
BT with a club foot, blind in one eye and 30kg overweight is still our best batsman. :lol:
When he's on song he's as good as anyone.
Corrected that for you :D

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paranoidandroid wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:07 am
Yes I think we're going to forget the wickets Chigumbura took because the list was top 10 best batsmen...

Tatenda Taibu might have a shout at top 10 though? Had a better test average than Alistair Campbell and Grant Flower.
If it’s strictly batting then Duncan Fletcher and Sean Ervine are not in our top 10 batsmen of all time

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Sean Ervine’s ODI average is 25.82

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But he was coming of age when he left. He scored an ODI ton, was taking wickets and he scored 3 fifties in his last 5 test innings.

Having said that, I don’t think he should be regarded as one of the best. Had a short career

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:47 am
Mueddie28 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:26 am

No Black
Say what ever but Hami scored over 5000 runs in Odis
He deserves to be in top 10
I don't base my selection on skin colour. I base it on quality of the player.

For all his 5000 runs, he still only averages 27. Not good enough for a player who played as often as he did as an opener.
Hami has a better ODI average than Houghton and a better test average than Johnson. All great players if you ask me. Just look at how we haven’t found somebody to replace Hami yet. Opening is not easy. I think Burl might be the only player right now with the technique required to play a long opening innings.

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All I’m saying is that let’s not knock these guys because we see them play regularly. The older generations also had their struggles. These guys have had it tough. I blame the system for failing the likes of Hami, Vusi, Chamu, Taibu and Elton more than I blame the players. Had they been in another system they would have had much better stats. They had the talent

Wes has gotten to be involved in 2 fine centuries at the very beginning of his career. He is seeing what he is doing wrong. He is being coached by that middle order. The previous generation had nobody

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