zimbabwe vs pakistan

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Pommie's call on the last ball is going absolutely viral . https://twitter.com/mufaddal_vohra/stat ... UiK5g&s=08
For people to enjoy

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Ya that commentary was brilliant. He was mega excited and it was beautiful to see the stunned looking Pakistani commentator who was annoying at best.

Evans will surely stay, but at whose expense? It surely means Chatara will sit out?
I don't know about dropping Jongwe for Munyonga. Is Munyonga a better bat? I have my doubts, He got himself in a tangle with that delivery because it was fast and nasty and it followed him, but he actually looked in control of the shot, just bottom edged it.

Reggie's stumping was crucial, but he did step twice. He also dropped the throw but recovered quickly and on one occasion went in front of the stumps to collect a throw from Shumba and had he been in position there was a definite run out chance. Had he stepped once and been a tiny bit quicker on that stumping the guy would still have been in his crease as it was one of those over balancing acts. I'm just pointing out his worst moments, his keeping was good on the whole and clearly he makes some decisions.
I don't know what to say about his current batting form.
He tries to over hit everything and there's probably more pressure to do that down the order than as an opener.
That opening combo will stay so his current position is probably where he will stay.
Shumba continues to go at a run a ball, as does Ervine and Williams, and Burl was even slower than that. It's a big problem and not one they're going to fix too easily. We're probably going to be reliant on Wes and Raza to post or chase any big totals, but someone else has to fire.

As the commentators said, it's an entirely different game with big boundaries. We have to adjust our game plans and field settings accordingly if its going to remain like that. It helps us a lot in my opinion. It ensures its a lower scoring game. The team with the most 2's and 3's wins.

I don't see there being any changes for the next game. Tough one for Chatara as he's bowled well. I'm also pretty sure there's less swing in Perth than Hobart. There's a slim chance he may play ahead of Jongwe but I doubt. Luke can bat.
I watched Evans bowling a couple of deliveries with an angled seam and he was really getting good movement with that. He bowled one really quick delivery as well, which makes you wonder why he cant do that more regularly or at least make his stock speed about 5kph quicker.

It's clear that the heavy length ball with no width is what's going to keep the batsmen quiet from the seamers. Let's hope they're on the money next game.

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:53 pm
Couldn't watch the game live. Watched the replay this morning.

Batting: Great start from Wes and Ervine. They were not trying to overhit the ball or hit too hard. Wes played some great punches and straight drives without over hitting. Just used the pace. It's exactly what I've been talking about. We got off to a good start, but then we faltered. Could easily have scored more than 130. We need to be better all around with the bat, not just have the one or two. Not really sure what Reggie and Jongwe add to the team at this point. Ervines wicket was a perfect example of our hook discussion yesterday. That was too high to hook, so drop the head and let it go. A dot is better than a wicket.

Bowling: All the superlatives have already been said about this area. Not sure if Kirby gets all the credit, but the lads are coming into their own. I don't see how you play Chatara over Evans. For me, Jongwe is the one you drop for Chatara if you want to bring him in.

Overall, did not expect the win, so to win and to win in that manner is insane. Puts us in a good position and we need to capitalise on that. We can definitely beat Bangladesh and Netherlands, and we really should beat them. If we can get some consistency and all around contribution with the bat, we should be ood.
Regis kept excellently today. I think we need to stick with Reggie for a bit more, he'll come good. If we want to shore up the batting, Munyonga for Jongwe maybe, but I'd still stick with this XI for Bangladesh. Chatara is gonna have to sit out I'm afraid, Evans took his opportunity with both hands and he deserves to stay in the side now. Ervine and Madhevere as an opening stand is actually very tasty, good blend of aggression and calmness, youth and experience. Regis at 6 is perfect for him to just go balls to the walls and swing at them, we know he can smash them into the crowd.

Beating Bangladesh and Netherlands is arguably more important than what we pulled off against Pakistan, we need to show the world that we are legit, and not just getting fluke wins. I trust Dave to see the issues that need to be worked on for Bdesh, theoretically it should be easier for us than yesterday was. Fingers crossed.

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CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:52 am

That's pretty harsh. Yes he is woefully out of form with the bat in needs to score some runs. But he has to take a lot of credit for that brilliant stumping and the runout at the end yesterday. And he comes across as an astute thinker and Ervine for sure leans on him for decisions as well on field. He needs runs for sure but asking what he adds to the team is taking it too far.
I'm not sure he gets the credit for the runout as he almost screwed it up. Stumping he get's the credit for. There were a couple shots with his keeping that I didn't like his positioning and movement, and it resulted in leg bye runs even a 4.

It's clear I am not his biggest fan, but I know that as a keeper, he is probably the best we have. As a batter he has been shit and needs to up his game. Last night he came in in the 13th over and his very first shot he decided to hit the ball back to Hobart. Terrible decision making from someone as experienced as he is. WIth the amount of games he has had, he really need to be contributing with at least 20 odd runs every second game.

I get that he is also a good enough leader, but he can do that from the sidelines too. I just think that if an experienced keeper is going to come in and score 1 and 3 or duck, then it makes no difference having a youngster there and moulding them better.

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Zimbabwe must definitely be the break through team of this year's WC. They have done way beyond expectations and won many a hearts of the neutrals. Dave has done wonders with the side. We have lost many a game when we were in a position to win. Its a great feeling turning the tables and actually getting over the line even when the odds are against us. Famba Zimbabwe. :D
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secretzimbo wrote:
Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:24 pm
A word for Steve Kirby. Houghton rightly gets the credit for the utterly ridiculous job he is dong/has done over the past few months, but it's clear that Kirby has had an instant impact with the bowlers already. Defending 130 on a good batting deck - wow. Ngarava in particular looks a better bowler already. Massive credit to Steve and the work he's doing.

I also love that he sings the anthem, and he seems to be front and centre of all the team celebrations as well :lol: :lol: Clearly enjoying himelf!
Lovely and a top guy. :D

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It's all about composure for now. There is too much on the line in every single game to expect a 21 year old to come into the team and start cracking sixes. Jongwe must stay in the team for now. All those drastic changes can be done after the world cup. Even though his bowling wasn't that great he still got a very important wicket yesterday.

I feel for Chatara but this is a good problem not a bad one. His bowling is not fast enough against the top sides. The game he can come in is maybe against the Dutch.

Chakabva owes us a knock. In his defence he probably won us that game against Australia with his contribution but his natural game is that run a ball type of innings that most of these guys are comfortable with. As I said before it's all about composure for now. There is just too much on the line to expect Madande to come in and perform.

Unlike Evans, Madande and Munyonga are much younger and have not yet experienced enough pressure situations. Somehow Evans has already been involved in about 4 really tough matches where he contributed. He has the mental part of his game figured out.

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The more I see of Evans the more I am reminded of McGrath. Same close to the stump nibbling line.fast bouncer. Good Yorker. At key moments McGrath always won no matter how good or bad he bowled. Evans is just the same..so excited to see the rest of his career. This attack should cause india problems..just get a few runs more next time...

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Chakhabva is a good one day player where he can play himself in. 20 20 is pretty unforgiving. I would stick with him. Maybe give madande solitary game against dutch to see what he is about and pick up a match fee 😄😄

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TapsC2 wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:16 am
It's all about composure for now. There is too much on the line in every single game to expect a 21 year old to come into the team and start cracking sixes. Jongwe must stay in the team for now. All those drastic changes can be done after the world cup. Even though his bowling wasn't that great he still got a very important wicket yesterday.

I feel for Chatara but this is a good problem not a bad one. His bowling is not fast enough against the top sides. The game he can come in is maybe against the Dutch.

Chakabva owes us a knock. In his defence he probably won us that game against Australia with his contribution but his natural game is that run a ball type of innings that most of these guys are comfortable with. As I said before it's all about composure for now. There is just too much on the line to expect Madande to come in and perform.

Unlike Evans, Madande and Munyonga are much younger and have not yet experienced enough pressure situations. Somehow Evans has already been involved in about 4 really tough matches where he contributed. He has the mental part of his game figured out.
Jongwe is not given enough credit for his ability to take wickets and also his death bowling (which he hasn't had much chance to do yet in this tournament) . He is also a better bat than Munyonga who has done absolutely nothing with the bat and looks more like a club cricketer

And why is no one talking about removing Burl, who has not scored any runs recently and has bowled poorly?

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