Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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Everybody is fed up to be honest.

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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sam_ahm wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:19 pm
Marshmallow wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:41 pm
https://sportscast.co.zw/chatara-leaked ... n-scandal/

Questions made by chatara is logical here.
This shows what members here like SZ and Googly have been saying, that the selection is not exactly biased based on colour, but it is biased based on ZC's own preferences. A lot of black players are also probably hard done by, like Nyauchi.

Tbh there is no way someone like Nyamhuri should have been fast tracked into the side, although I agree that he has got potential. He needed more time at domestic level.
Both these things can be true. A staggered step of bias.
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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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I think what I find funny with all the discourse on twitter is.

How the coach always gets what they want. Well if that’s the case, Why do we have selectors?

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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tawac wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:12 am
Googly wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:55 am

One of the big takeaways from this surely has to be that probably our most successful bowler ever and a 15 year veteran doesn't think he has a channel to express his worries and be told honestly what's in store for him now and in the future. That's a big wake up call for any white boy that thinks he might get a fair crack of the whip.
I think the last bit applies to all players. We have had players who have done well for so long being overlooked one really questions why they even Play the FC cricket. Perhaps its a questions of playing whilst looking for whatever gig pops up abroad. This is not a question of cricket alone but Zimbabwe in general. The only reason why people hang around solely remains on how much ZC is paying them like what Chats says he would still be happy with his current contract. It would be interesting to see the number of players who have left at 26/27 years old.
Well that's easy to answer. Guys leave school, start a cricket career and have no other skills. ZC have a captive market of journeymen cricketers that they know will be needing the 4 month wage every year, and they know the number to dangle to keep them grudgingly playing. Without a players' union it's not a lot.
Our economy is so poked that the job market is virtually non existent unless a person has a real skill set or has an uncle who's the boss.

I'm sure Chatara will still be on a central contract, which is interesting. It's the same as a few guys that are proving to be marginal. Firstly the contracts are probably longer than 12 months and then it's a helluva thing to chop an older guy that needs the money for his family, especially knowing he's got no other plan. It creates a couple of problems- firstly ZC will be reluctant to dish out new contracts and secondly the guys on existing contracts don't seem to be too motivated to be the best they can be. I might be maligning them and they may well be, but the results surely don't reflect it.

It would be eye opening to know who's centrally contracted and who isn't. I reckon it would cause an outcry. In fact i know it would.

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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Andy31 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:53 am
I think what I find funny with all the discourse on twitter is.

How the coach always gets what they want. Well if that’s the case, Why do we have selectors?
I don't think anyone is buying that. I have heard that the extended squad gets picked by the selectors and then the coach can pick his starting eleven, but I don't think that's true. I'm sure he has a big say, but it will be a negotiation.

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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Well you just have to make Chatara angry. He gets a fifer and rolls Munyonga and Kamwemba who were Eagle's last hope.
The tension between Larry and Victor must be immense. It's not good.

So Chatara was made captain of Mountaineers after Maruma refused it so this will be interesting to see who's next. They may keep Larry, but thats not how they generally work. Timycen will have a black mark against his name for refusing it and may be forced to reconsider.
Welly is the obvious choice and its possible he was the guy who caused the issue for NW in the first place, but if he's in the national squad they're now short of captains at Mountaineers.
So many unnecessary bullshit politics.

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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Googly wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:08 am
Andy31 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:53 am
I think what I find funny with all the discourse on twitter is.

How the coach always gets what they want. Well if that’s the case, Why do we have selectors?
I don't think anyone is buying that. I have heard that the extended squad gets picked by the selectors and then the coach can pick his starting eleven, but I don't think that's true. I'm sure he has a big say, but it will be a negotiation.
That is the normal way of things around the world. Selectors pick a squad, coach/captain choose the XI from that.

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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So did Nyauchi just rat out Chatara or how did this get leaked?

If so, Victor deserves to be punched in the head.
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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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No idea. Just recording it (whoever that was, it may not even have been VN?) shows some poor intent.

It's caused a world of problems for Chatara. I feel really bad for him. There's tension between the two of them, but that could be because he felt he was drawn into the conversation? It will come out in the wash today.
Every single player i know complains about ZC. Friends will now be demanding people turn their phones off for a mere social. It's a big wake up call.

If it was VN it's hard to understand the motivation, that's why I'd like to believe he's got nothing to do with it. This divide and rule thing they've got nailed down though.

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Re: Franchise Round 5 - Logan Cup & Pro 50 (4th-9th January 2025)

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Googly wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:23 am
If it was VN it's hard to understand the motivation, that's why I'd like to believe he's got nothing to do with it. This divide and rule thing they've got nailed down though.
IF it was VN, and that is a big IF at this stage (although hard to see who else?) then the only thing that would make sense to me is if you look at the only 'experienced' bowlers in line for national selection, it is only VN and Chats.

Richie/Blessing hold a mortgage on their spots atm, deservedly so, and at this stage the remaining two spots in a squad would be a shootout between Newman/gwandu (the projects), Chivanga, or the experience of Chatara and VN.

So theoretically, with all the heat on DM for selecting green project players, they would turn to experience, and by assassinating Chataras chances, he is the last man standing. removed his most direct competitor.

IF that is what has happened, that is incredibly vicious and VN should be tossed aside too.
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