State of SA

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Man that article makes me angry for so many reasons
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I was actually very surprised CSA never poached Madhevere. With their system he would have been 3x better. I think he even top scored for us when we played them a few months ago.

The quota system will never balance until they start producing batsmen. It's only a matter of time before they start looking north to solve this problem. We don't exactly produce that many ourselves but the next starlet who gets a scholarship to SA might never come back

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jaybro wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:33 am
Is Brevis interested in playing test cricket or is he headed straight to the t20 franchise circuit?
I'd think he'd n33d to play at least a year of red ball domestically and do well. The guy I like is Stubbs, something special about him. I don't know what his red ball is like. Rickelton has put his hand up for sure.

The weakest test side that SA have put out, probably ever, will still mince us though.

If SA can't produce a plethora of real quality black batters by now then odds are it's not going to happen. They've thrown cash and lots of resources at the problem for years with limited results. Their domestic standard is the worst its ever been in all formats as well. The trick is to find someone to blame. Their age group cricket is pretty shite as well and that's where you really see the biased selections. It's a similar scenario that occurred here, there's a bunch of good white kids that either take their foot off the pedal or look at other countries if they're eligible and the standard of school cricket has diminished noticeably.

It's a vexing problem for the folk that believe that the inequality issue can be resolved by skewing the playing field- practicing overt racism and calling it empowerment/quota or whatever sanitized word they dredge up. They might make a change in the national side selections to paper over the cracks, but the rot is at age group.

The theory that you only need a couple of good guys coming through every year doesn't look like it holds much water.

There are no solutions, thats the fact.

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I find it quite funny that the likes of Firdorse & co are on Twitter blaming scheduling and everything else under the sun for the demise of the Proteas.

We all know you need a strong domestic structure to produce good talent, but when you have 60% of the player pool they’re picked on skin colour rather than talent that’s the where the problem begins.

I understand their reasoning for wanting a national team that reflects the population, but they have gone about it he wrong way.
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jaybro wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:52 am
Man that article makes me angry for so many reasons
Yeah that article is not a good read. SA is partly weak at the moment because they lost a couple years of faf, AB and many years of de kock.

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South Africa have looked truly pathetic on this tour, I'm quite surprised just how far off the pace they have been. I knew their batsmen and spin bowlers probably wouldn't be all that great, but the pace attack hasn't done much either. I honestly think Zimbabwe would have performed better.
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It's tough to understand how un-competitive SA have been. Even with a shaky looking batting line up they should have been better in the bowling dept.
Jansen coming in ahead of Harmer is surprising as well.

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CSA have real resources and are blundering big time. The fat cats jostling for position at the top are going to enrich themselves hugely though. Its a bit like watching the Zim implosion, but in slo-motion.

I'm watching Hazelwood's spell against Elgar. Astonishing bowling.

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Quotas, poor school cricket, bad domestic stucture, etc, offer no reasons as to why Elgar's captaincy has been so poor. Has he always been this tactically unaware?
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Talking of Harmer and other kolpak returns, to be honest Harmer and Olivier both have been disappointing after their come back. Even Rossouw has been inconsistent, although still ok. Only Parnell has been a good addition from the kolpak returnees, but that too only with the ball, Parnell's batting has regressed.

On this test series, easily the weakest South African side, ever. I mean that's not even a question, never seen them this weak. Massive changes are needed in the side.

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