One day? Why not now? like today... Please go ahead i cant wait like the rest of people.
Give us the tea.
You and your acquaintances will pay.
You can only wish. I am my own self and i will stand up for myself and face anything. Stop trying to threaten people here. This is not in Zimbabwe where people use fear. Stop behaving like Zanu Pf....
One day? Why not now? like today... Please go ahead i cant wait like the rest of people.
Give us the tea.
You and your acquaintances will pay.
You can only wish. I am my own self and i will stand up for myself and face anything. Stop trying to threaten people here. This is not in Zimbabwe where people use fear. Stop behaving like Zanu Pf....
I fear FOKOL
Just choked on my sadza. So so rich coming from you.
Of course you can have the opposite like where Jofra archer had a uk passport and citizenship through his dad but hadn’t lived there long enough as an adult so had to do the ICC 3 years regardless.
That was because he had played for West Indies U19s. If he had not done that, it wouldn't have mattered.
Again, look at the likes of Wayne Madsen playing for Italy through heritage. Loads of Dutch players similar. Some have never been there, but have the required ancestry.
That’s fair enough, I didn’t know the reasons why.
That's the only reason he is playing county cricket now. He's not going to get a contract as an overseas player. He plays county cricket as a local.
Local Boards (or governments) can have regulations of their own for their national teams that are MORE strict than ICC regs, if they so choose. England's qualification rules have been more strict than necessary for years. But! They can't have regulations that are LESS strict than ICC regs.
Look at many associate nations. You can't get citizenship of a lot of these Arab states. Simply not possible. However, their cricket teams are full of people who have moved there relatively recently and have no other connection to the country.
Wrong in England you cant play for England without British Citizenship. If you are dual citizen you have to satisfy only the ICC residence period.
So for Muyeye he needs to acquire British Citizenship and will be eligible straight away as he would have already satisfied the ICC residence requirement.
In England, there is an additional, stricter criteria.
However, there could not be a softer criteria.
You can't fasttrack the process by buying a passport. You can make it slower by adding additional requirements, if you choose to do so.
But, all the Pakistanis playing for Qatar, Saudi, etc will have only qualified by residency. Their local board will then not have used any additional requirements above and beyond that.
Back to the question at hand, I don't belief that Naqvi fulfils residency until Jan '26. I have no idea if Zim will impose any additional requirements beyond the ICC ones. The fact that he has already played for the A-team suggests not.
To represent any Zim National Sports Team one has to be a bonafide Zimbabwe Citizen. Which means he only qualifies for Zimbabwe in 2033. Raza had to endure 10 painful years on the sidelines. I could see the pain in his eyes every day and i kept him going. That's why when he dons that Zim shirt he doesnt take it for granted and fights and knows it wasn't easy to get to wear that shirt. He earned the right to wear it the hard way.
With Raza imagine we were both young at the time and how difficult it was for me to keep him motivated. Yes i was in a position of influence but on a personal level with him we were and still are close friends, there are times i could see the pain in his eyes and had nothing to say would just say to him get your pads on and start feeding ball for him to hit then finish it off with me bowling a couple of overs then go home.
You can only wish. I am my own self and i will stand up for myself and face anything. Stop trying to threaten people here. This is not in Zimbabwe where people use fear. Stop behaving like Zanu Pf....
I fear FOKOL
Just choked on my sadza. So so rich coming from you.
SO go ahead drop the tea. You think you can just threaten people and they will fold. Everyone is waiting for your bombshell.
Wrong in England you cant play for England without British Citizenship. If you are dual citizen you have to satisfy only the ICC residence period.
So for Muyeye he needs to acquire British Citizenship and will be eligible straight away as he would have already satisfied the ICC residence requirement.
In England, there is an additional, stricter criteria.
However, there could not be a softer criteria.
You can't fasttrack the process by buying a passport. You can make it slower by adding additional requirements, if you choose to do so.
But, all the Pakistanis playing for Qatar, Saudi, etc will have only qualified by residency. Their local board will then not have used any additional requirements above and beyond that.
Back to the question at hand, I don't belief that Naqvi fulfils residency until Jan '26. I have no idea if Zim will impose any additional requirements beyond the ICC ones. The fact that he has already played for the A-team suggests not.
To represent any Zim National Sports Team one has to be a bonafide Zimbabwe Citizen. Which means he only qualifies for Zimbabwe in 2033. Raza had to endure 10 painful years on the sidelines. I could see the pain in his eyes every day and i kept him going. That's why when he dons that Zim shirt he doesnt take it for granted and fights and knows it wasn't easy to get to wear that shirt. He earned the right to wear it the hard way.
With Raza imagine we were both young at the time and how difficult it was for me to keep him motivated. Yes i was in a position of influence but on a personal level with him we were and still are close friends, there are times i could see the pain in his eyes and had nothing to say would just say to him get your pads on and start feeding ball for him to hit then finish it off with me bowling a couple of overs then go home.
I can verify this through my own discussion with Raza, it was VERY taxing for him. That was the verbal picture he painted.
Goes to show the value of hardship toward playing for the national team, hope ZC have learnt the lesson from creaming too early over Wes 'G Money' Madhevere and others, but I fear not as Newmans getting the red carpet. Takes away icentive to improve and a necessary character building ingredient.
Cricinfo profile of the 'James Bond' of cricket:
FULL NAME: Angus James Mackay
BORN: 13 June 1967, Harare
KNOWN AS: Gus Mackay
Wrong in England you cant play for England without British Citizenship. If you are dual citizen you have to satisfy only the ICC residence period.
So for Muyeye he needs to acquire British Citizenship and will be eligible straight away as he would have already satisfied the ICC residence requirement.
In England, there is an additional, stricter criteria.
However, there could not be a softer criteria.
You can't fasttrack the process by buying a passport. You can make it slower by adding additional requirements, if you choose to do so.
But, all the Pakistanis playing for Qatar, Saudi, etc will have only qualified by residency. Their local board will then not have used any additional requirements above and beyond that.
Back to the question at hand, I don't belief that Naqvi fulfils residency until Jan '26. I have no idea if Zim will impose any additional requirements beyond the ICC ones. The fact that he has already played for the A-team suggests not.
To represent any Zim National Sports Team one has to be a bonafide Zimbabwe Citizen. Which means he only qualifies for Zimbabwe in 2033. Raza had to endure 10 painful years on the sidelines. I could see the pain in his eyes every day and i kept him going. That's why when he dons that Zim shirt he doesnt take it for granted and fights and knows it wasn't easy to get to wear that shirt. He earned the right to wear it the hard way.
With Raza imagine we were both young at the time and how difficult it was for me to keep him motivated. Yes i was in a position of influence but on a personal level with him we were and still are close friends, there are times i could see the pain in his eyes and had nothing to say would just say to him get your pads on and start feeding ball for him to hit then finish it off with me bowling a couple of overs then go home.
Seems highly unlikely that they would bother picking him in an A-Team 8 years before he would be able to play for national team. Even more so when you factor in that bizarre call up for the India T20Is...
Therefore, I would imagine that the goalposts have moved significantly in the 12 years since Raza made his debut.
In England, there is an additional, stricter criteria.
However, there could not be a softer criteria.
You can't fasttrack the process by buying a passport. You can make it slower by adding additional requirements, if you choose to do so.
But, all the Pakistanis playing for Qatar, Saudi, etc will have only qualified by residency. Their local board will then not have used any additional requirements above and beyond that.
Back to the question at hand, I don't belief that Naqvi fulfils residency until Jan '26. I have no idea if Zim will impose any additional requirements beyond the ICC ones. The fact that he has already played for the A-team suggests not.
To represent any Zim National Sports Team one has to be a bonafide Zimbabwe Citizen. Which means he only qualifies for Zimbabwe in 2033. Raza had to endure 10 painful years on the sidelines. I could see the pain in his eyes every day and i kept him going. That's why when he dons that Zim shirt he doesnt take it for granted and fights and knows it wasn't easy to get to wear that shirt. He earned the right to wear it the hard way.
With Raza imagine we were both young at the time and how difficult it was for me to keep him motivated. Yes i was in a position of influence but on a personal level with him we were and still are close friends, there are times i could see the pain in his eyes and had nothing to say would just say to him get your pads on and start feeding ball for him to hit then finish it off with me bowling a couple of overs then go home.
I can verify this through my own discussion with Raza, it was VERY taxing for him. That was the verbal picture he painted.
Goes to show the value of hardship toward playing for the national team, hope ZC have learnt the lesson from creaming too early over Wes 'G Money' Madhevere and others, but I fear not as Newmans getting the red carpet. Takes away icentive to improve and a necessary character building ingredient.
Thank you, i am glad there are independent people who can verify some of these things. There was nothing anyone could do but just wait till the 10yrs was over. Even after the 10yr period there was a few challenges which i will talk about when the time is right.
Raza is always hungry to play i remember on Stanbic T20 he got injured on the 'eve' (4 days before) of the tournament. Fractured wrist he refused to be ruled out until the morning of day 1 of the tournament. KC, Amato and myself had to sit him down (well in that meeting i didn't say a word was merely an observer as nothing i would have said would make situation better) and explain the bigger picture. He still wanted to play despite the injury. We finished as runners up and players individually donated 15% of their winnings to construct artificial outdoor nets and gym at Harare sports club (Which ZC are now converting into indoor artificial nets). Everyone agreed Raza deserved to get his full share even though he didn't take part in the tournament and guess what he got his money and donated it to the construction of the nets and gym facilities.
In England, there is an additional, stricter criteria.
However, there could not be a softer criteria.
You can't fasttrack the process by buying a passport. You can make it slower by adding additional requirements, if you choose to do so.
But, all the Pakistanis playing for Qatar, Saudi, etc will have only qualified by residency. Their local board will then not have used any additional requirements above and beyond that.
Back to the question at hand, I don't belief that Naqvi fulfils residency until Jan '26. I have no idea if Zim will impose any additional requirements beyond the ICC ones. The fact that he has already played for the A-team suggests not.
To represent any Zim National Sports Team one has to be a bonafide Zimbabwe Citizen. Which means he only qualifies for Zimbabwe in 2033. Raza had to endure 10 painful years on the sidelines. I could see the pain in his eyes every day and i kept him going. That's why when he dons that Zim shirt he doesnt take it for granted and fights and knows it wasn't easy to get to wear that shirt. He earned the right to wear it the hard way.
With Raza imagine we were both young at the time and how difficult it was for me to keep him motivated. Yes i was in a position of influence but on a personal level with him we were and still are close friends, there are times i could see the pain in his eyes and had nothing to say would just say to him get your pads on and start feeding ball for him to hit then finish it off with me bowling a couple of overs then go home.
Seems highly unlikely that they would bother picking him in an A-Team 8 years before he would be able to play for national team. Even more so when you factor in that bizarre call up for the India T20Is...
Therefore, I would imagine that the goalposts have moved significantly in the 12 years since Raza made his debut.
Nothing has shifted. Raza played a couple of A side games during his 10yr period nothing un usual they are just that List A or FC matches nothing more than that, they are not international matches.
The India T20I series squad announcement was over excitement by Zimbabwe Cricket. They thought well they would get away with it and then realised they are playing with fire. I said this before that nearly cost Givemore his job.
