ZIM A vs CAN [1st Unofficial ODI]

[aydee]

But not if he has a Zimbabwe passport. That alone in theory should automatically make him eligible.

Anyway, the fact he’s still playing is a really good sign and Zimbabwe can’t be too far off (early 2026 at the latest it seems). He walks into the team.

Not at all, Aydee is 100% RIGHT

No he isn’t. Read the ICC regs.

You can't qualify quicker for a country with which you have no previous connection by buying a passport. You have to qualify through residency. By my reckoning that would be Jan '26.

[aydee]

Staying on topic, you are as clueless as ever. Muyeye is eligible to play for England tomorrow. Fact.

Correct.

That's the only reason he is playing county cricket now. He's not going to get a contract as an overseas player. He plays county cricket as a local.

Local Boards (or governments) can have regulations of their own for their national teams that are MORE strict than ICC regs, if they so choose. England's qualification rules have been more strict than necessary for years. But! They can't have regulations that are LESS strict than ICC regs.

Look at many associate nations. You can't get citizenship of a lot of these Arab states. Simply not possible. However, their cricket teams are full of people who have moved there relatively recently and have no other connection to the country.

[jontym87]

Staying on topic, you are as clueless as ever. Muyeye is eligible to play for England tomorrow. Fact.

Correct.

That's the only reason he is playing county cricket now. He's not going to get a contract as an overseas player. He plays county cricket as a local.

Local Boards (or governments) can have regulations of their own for their national teams that are MORE strict than ICC regs, if they so choose. England's qualification rules have been more strict than necessary for years. But! They can't have regulations that are LESS strict than ICC regs.

Look at many associate nations. You can't get citizenship of a lot of these Arab states. Simply not possible. However, their cricket teams are full of people who have moved there relatively recently and have no other connection to the country.

Wrong in England you cant play for England without British Citizenship. If you are dual citizen you have to satisfy only the ICC residence period.

So for Muyeye he needs to acquire British Citizenship and will be eligible straight away as he would have already satisfied the ICC residence requirement.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/crick ... ility.html

[secretzimbo]

Muyeye literally plays as an England eligible player and is eligible for selection right now. ECB have some weird citizenship rule but it's their own rule. There's nothing stopping them from changing that rule to select him. They already bent their own 'rules' to pick Archer early. Counties get fined/get less funding for every non-eligible player they select. Kent do not currently lose this funding for Muyeye. He is, in this regard, considered England eligible. They could pick him tomorrow if he was smashing hundreds in every single game. In the ICC's eyes, he is eligible on residency already, some time ago.

You know absolutely nothing, about almost any subject, and yet act so cock-sure. It is quite staggering.

[Pat_Bee]

He can count as a local for Kent and has done through the duration of his immigration process. That’s a separate regulation again, specifically for asylum seekers. That’s not the same as him being eligible for England selection.

[Pat_Bee]

Of course you can have the opposite like where Jofra archer had a uk passport and citizenship through his dad but hadn’t lived there long enough as an adult so had to do the ICC 3 years regardless.

[secretzimbo]

One day I will expose you and what you have done

One day? Why not now? like today... Please go ahead i cant wait like the rest of people.

Give us the tea.

You and your acquaintances will pay.

[aydee]

Staying on topic, you are as clueless as ever. Muyeye is eligible to play for England tomorrow. Fact.

Correct.

That's the only reason he is playing county cricket now. He's not going to get a contract as an overseas player. He plays county cricket as a local.

Local Boards (or governments) can have regulations of their own for their national teams that are MORE strict than ICC regs, if they so choose. England's qualification rules have been more strict than necessary for years. But! They can't have regulations that are LESS strict than ICC regs.

Look at many associate nations. You can't get citizenship of a lot of these Arab states. Simply not possible. However, their cricket teams are full of people who have moved there relatively recently and have no other connection to the country.

Wrong in England you cant play for England without British Citizenship. If you are dual citizen you have to satisfy only the ICC residence period.

So for Muyeye he needs to acquire British Citizenship and will be eligible straight away as he would have already satisfied the ICC residence requirement.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/crick ... ility.html

I think we are agreeing with each other.

In England, there is an additional, stricter criteria.

However, there could not be a softer criteria.

You can't fasttrack the process by buying a passport. You can make it slower by adding additional requirements, if you choose to do so.

But, all the Pakistanis playing for Qatar, Saudi, etc will have only qualified by residency. Their local board will then not have used any additional requirements above and beyond that.

Back to the question at hand, I don't belief that Naqvi fulfils residency until Jan '26. I have no idea if Zim will impose any additional requirements beyond the ICC ones. The fact that he has already played for the A-team suggests not.

[jontym87]

He can count as a local for Kent and has done through the duration of his immigration process. That’s a separate regulation again, specifically for asylum seekers. That’s not the same as him being eligible for England selection.

Thank You Pat for knocking sense into some heads. Because its Jonty who said it some will want to argue for the sack of arguing.

[aydee]

Of course you can have the opposite like where Jofra archer had a uk passport and citizenship through his dad but hadn’t lived there long enough as an adult so had to do the ICC 3 years regardless.

That was because he had played for West Indies U19s. If he had not done that, it wouldn't have mattered.

Again, look at the likes of Wayne Madsen playing for Italy through heritage. Loads of Dutch players similar. Some have never been there, but have the required ancestry.