[Match Thread] New Zealand vs Zimbabwe

[ZIMDOGGY]

I don't know what's more sad.

Getting 162 or the fact I never really expected them to get any more

[ZIMDOGGY]

Elton chigumbura no longer deserves to play in this team.

shat up idiot...he is a warld class cricker
he shoud be a captan

I'll make you a deal....
I'll Shutup the day you learn to string 2 words together properly without a mistake. Kapishe?

[ZIMDOGGY]

Straight up Ali Campbell needs to ditch recruiting foreign batsman next season and recruit a few pace bowlers to toughen our bats up.... And maybe show the chitsras and jarvises how to do it.

[anusha gamage]

Elton chigumbura no longer deserves to play in this team.

shat up idiot...he is a warld class cricker
he shoud be a captan

I'll make you a deal....
I'll Shutup the day you learn to string 2 words together properly without a mistake. Kapishe?

listn me chig..is best player ,,,he can bowll and he can bat well/// look at worm up match vs iarland...he make a 100
t20 world cup worm up match vs aus,,, he score 75 ..he is best player zim no 1 all rounder...

[maehara]

listn me chig..is best player ,,,he can bowll and he can bat well/// look at worm up match vs iarland...he make a 100
t20 world cup worm up match vs aus, he score 75 ..he is best player zim no 1 all rounder...

Two warm-up matches that count for nothing. In competitive matches, he's done nothing in quite some time - and he doesn't even bowl these days. Check your facts.

Also, next time you come in here with "shut up idiot" as your opening line, it'll be the last time you post here. Go troll elsewhere.

[anusha gamage]

ok i am foolish ; all of this forum interligen peaples

[brmtaylor.com admin]

This performance leaves a lot to be desired. We could have done better WAY better, Utseya and cremer to the rescue! Anyway I think the days of saying this match was a learning curve are over our cricket really needs to improve.

Yeah, spot on. There's no excuse for today's performance, it's just been poor cricket (mainly poor batting, but besides Price, Lamb and Utseya the bowling has hardly been threatening). It's as clear as day that this is not a bad batting track as the New Zealanders and Taylor and Utseya showed.

I still like Coventry a lot and going forward I think and hope he can play a big part in our batting, but even I feel his form right now is too non-existent to justify a position in the team. If he retains his spot I won't complain, but if he's replaced it's hard to mount an argument against it.

It sounds like Mpofu picked up an injury which explains Panyangara's inclusion. It's nice to see him in Zimbabwean colours after all these years, but his rustiness is showing. He didn't look like he was straining to reach mid 130's, perhaps Streak and company can groom him into being our 140+ speedster? I remember thinking as early as 2005 or so during the Test series against Bangladesh that he could be a decent bowling allrounder - I'm not sure if that holds true after all these years but it would be interesting to have batting all the way down to number 11, particularly when we return to Tests.

I guess luckily for Zim this wasn't a do-or-die match, although probably the best opportunity to nab a win against a top nation. Canada showed Pakistan can be troubled (but we all know that it depends on which Pakistani team turns up on the day... or perhaps how many players have been persuaded not to ) so that has to be the targeted match.

Chigumbura is in a precarious position now, his batting has deserted him and his bowling hasn't returned to him. At least he is a reasonably attacking captain, I had no problem with his decision to bat first - it's only partly his fault that the team folded for 160. And his field placements are generally pretty good. But he is woefully out of form

At least Taylor made a start today, that's probably the only positive that can be taken out of the game. Cremer and Utseya's batting wasn't bad either. Otherwise it was a complete write off - forget about it and focus on next Thursday's match.

[sm8019]

Throw all the toys out of the cot. Yes, it's that time of the year. Time to rethink all! From the league, coaching staff to the players. From administration at the highest levels of the game to incentive structures within Zim Cricket. I laugh when looking at the never ending excuses regarding our performances day in and day out. The reality is: Zimbabwe's performance has NOT improved by much, if at all and all this hype regarding old players coming back and new systems blah blah blah has resulted in little improvement. I would go on to say that there has been a negative rate of return considering the resources poured into the effort to revive our cricket. It would have been and still is a better decision to send all our best cricket down across the Limpopo where a cricket league exists. Our cricket league is probably just as competitive as SA's High School Cricket (I know I'm not far off from the truth).

How much longer are we going to deal with excuses or some figment of a fantasy....? It's time to rethink everything Zimbabwe cricket. The more we delay this, the deeper we sink.

[aydee]

Throw all the toys out of the cot. Yes, it's that time of the year. Time to rethink all! From the league, coaching staff to the players. From administration at the highest levels of the game to incentive structures within Zim Cricket. I laugh when looking at the never ending excuses regarding our performances day in and day out. The reality is: Zimbabwe's performance has NOT improved by much, if at all and all this hype regarding old players coming back and new systems blah blah blah has resulted in little improvement. I would go on to say that there has been a negative rate of return considering the resources poured into the effort to revive our cricket. It would have been and still is a better decision to send all our best cricket down across the Limpopo where a cricket league exists. Our cricket league is probably just as competitive as SA's High School Cricket (I know I'm not far off from the truth).

How much longer are we going to deal with excuses or some figment of a fantasy....? It's time to rethink everything Zimbabwe cricket. The more we delay this, the deeper we sink.

I'm not really sure I understand this reaction. What you are asking for "Time to rethink all! From the league, coaching staff to the players" is what has happened over the last 18 months. It was never going to be a miracle cure, anyone who thought it would was extremely naive. And some small steps have definitely been made. In the last year Zim have won games against WI, SL, India and Bangladesh.

It was always going to be 2 steps forward, then 1 backwards, that's the way of things. The quality of Zim's infrastructure, personnel, size of player-base etc, is still much inferior to a side like NZ, so on a bad day, a result like today's is going to happen, sadly. They are simply a better cricket team, from a more established cricketing nation, at the moment.

Obviously, today's is not a level of performance that should be accepted. Everyone is aware of this. Clearly the players will be trying their best to prove a point next time.

[BaijuSpeaks]

Forget this day guys....It was not a good day for Zimbabwe at all. Absence of Williams and Mpofu was really shown on the field today. Hope both of them will be fit for the next game.

Even with the likes Flower brothers,Goodwin, Neil Johnson in Zimbabwe line up, we were terribly beaten by Sri Lanka,England and Pakistan in the 99 world cup. The same happened in 2003 World cup too against bigger teams. So, it is nothing new for Zimbabwe cricket. The only thing is they should learn from their mistakes and play better in the games following as they did in 99 and 2003.

Frankly speaking, we are not good enough to make the Quarter Finals. but, what I really hope is an upset win against a test playing nation. That can guide Zim cricket a long way ahead.

Hope the boys can do better in the games to follow.