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Googly
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And they don't monitor those guys, in fact they cut them some slack, they're little kings in their own kingdom. You're not turning those guys around. If you don't give a damn about cricket you can't be made to. You're not the right guy for the job.
There aren't many around anymore either.
We are so deep in the shit that the most skilled and diligent people probably couldn't claw us out. This uncaring crew definitely aren't going to do it.
One meltdown throwing your toys out the cot ain't going to cut it.

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secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:45 pm
Googly wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:30 pm
We don't have age group, we don't have an academy, we don't have bowling machines, ZC don't have an indoor, we've got some terrible guys in the admin and management that the players despise.
This 1,000x this!!!!!!


But nah, apparently it’s the players faults for not all being as good as Kohli.
He is not asking them to be as good as Kohli, SZ. He is also admitting that they have problems in the domestic structure, but what he is saying is that how can they lose to Uganda who he thinks don't even have a domestic structute.

He never spoke about being world beaters, he is only questioning how come they can't even beat Uganda, Namibia, Scotland and UAE... How is it that they are losing games they should have easily won. I don't see a problem with that.

As long as he is not blaming the performers like Raza, Blessing, Richard, Williams, and Burl that's actually Ok. The players have to be accountable.

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Crastle_cog wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:18 pm
At least they announced the squad earlier than the morning of the first match day hey :lol:
I think it's 3 days of prep. Cricket can throw up strange results, but I think we're going to be eviscerated if SL pick a good team.
Had they picked a side 2 weeks ago and prepared better it would have been an infinitely better management decision.
Nobody seems to have a plan.
I'm not seeing a way out of this mess.

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sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:25 pm
secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:45 pm
Googly wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:30 pm
We don't have age group, we don't have an academy, we don't have bowling machines, ZC don't have an indoor, we've got some terrible guys in the admin and management that the players despise.
This 1,000x this!!!!!!


But nah, apparently it’s the players faults for not all being as good as Kohli.
He is not asking them to be as good as Kohli, SZ. He is also admitting that they have problems in the domestic structure, but what he is saying is that how can they lose to Uganda who he thinks don't even have a domestic structute.

He never spoke about being world beaters, he is only questioning how come they can't even beat Uganda, Namibia, Scotland and UAE... How is it that they are losing games they should have easily won. I don't see a problem with that.

As long as he is not blaming the performers like Raza, Blessing, Richard, Williams, and Burl that's actually Ok. The players have to be accountable.
Why is he questioning it? Why doesn't he know the answers, it's his job to know the answers, not have a meltdown weeks after the fact. It's his job to implement the plan so this doesn't happen.

If you're going to be stupid enough to start pointing fingers then point fingers at everyone, why should senior guys escape?

If you're pointing fingers in a public outburst you're deflecting the blame from yourself. You solve problems before the finger pointing stage.

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sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:25 pm
He is also admitting that they have problems in the domestic structure
Then he should resign, seeing as he's been involved with managing it for decades.
He never spoke about being world beaters, he is only questioning how come they can't even beat Uganda, Namibia, Scotland and UAE... How is it that they are losing games they should have easily won. I don't see a problem with that.
It's embarrassing that he is so dismissive of these countries. But then again he would be, because the guy knows almost 0 about cricket.

Scotland have over 130 active cricket clubs most with their own beautiful grounds and good facilities. There are thousands of active players at different levels. And that's before you even think about those that play south of the border. Their system is 1,000x better than ours. If they had our funding we wouldn't even be marginally competitive against them.

UAE have some of the best facilities on the planet, an expat community of millions of whom several tens of thousands play some form of cricket regularly. Also huge income from their leagues, government and sponsors.

The fact he calls Namibia minnows and nobodies in his rant is offensive and downright hilariously. They have surpassed us. And guess who's overseen the period where thats happened?


Meanwhile his administration and that of his pals before him, have spaffed hundreds of millions of dollars up the wall over the past two decades and therefore we have about 5 half decent grounds, no indoor centre, no academy, no high performance pathway, very few good qualified coaches in the country, most schools have stopped playing, etc etc.

Yes we should be far ahead of these nations. Who's fault is it that we aren't?

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Exactly on point.

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Nice shout out for the lady chevrons. ZC doing something right at least. Totally got their eye on Brent.

About time someone in the system called out the players. We all know the administrative side is a joke but some blame needs laying with the players themselves.

Hungry players will do whatever it takes to get to the top and succeed no matter how bad the system. Guys like Raza and to a lesser extent currently; Ngarava, at the superstar level. Guys like Gumbie at the junior level. Bradman practiced with a golf ball and a stump as the legend goes. Bowling machines ?! :lol: You guys need to lay off the mbanje championing the grass roots game without a grass roots mentality. If you haven’t got that back to basics approach and the mental drive then you’re achieving nothing irregardless of how professional your backroom set up is.

These guys have a sweet old gig making a solid wedge for little and you’d hope, pleasurable work. They can go home and tell the wife from now on it’s Chicken Inn for lunch every day, not just match day. Can become a minor celebrity on ZCF where six guys will boost your social media profile. If they’re happy cruising through that life then good on them. ZC aren’t accountable for that. Shady as the system is, at the end of the day it’s down to the 11 on the field in those few hours to get the job done, these are grown men. Board get a free pass from me on this, they screw up a lot but actual on field performance is out their remit. You think the board call Raza for a snap meeting and tell him to play a rash shot when the chips are down or tell Larry to keep the pace on when he’s going at 20 an over?! Course they bloody don’t.

Typical African mentality blaming someone else when it’s going wrong even though you’ve got the means to get yourself out of it. Sit and wait for some miracle or something because you ain’t getting off your backside to do anything about it right :lol: some guys hawking recycled pampers on Samora Machel this very afternoon would still have you believe Cecil Rhodes, good old Smithy and King Charles are responsible for their predicament.


Squad is reasonable:
Few familiar faces who are nice to see; Luke Jongwe :lol: he’s totally got some shady scam lined up for the mean streets of Columbo. Selling a few of his spare bats to kids or something.
Faraz Akram :lol: :lol: his shadiness will come in useful on those subcontinent tracks.
Williams - what is he doing?! He still injured from that side strain in one of the Ireland games? He’s an old man now :lol:

Munyonga and Shumba in last chance saloon allegedly. They’re kids with potential and more importantly the drive and composure. Wouldn’t be getting the chop from me any time soon. ZC backed the wrong horse with Wes, Shumba is all that and better. Just needs a decent run and some boardroom confidence in his game. Munyonga has the mettle to succeed and that’s what half the players are missing.

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Re: Zimbabwe Squad for Sri Lanka

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Pat_Bee wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:40 pm
Board get a free pass from me on this, they screw up a lot but actual on field performance is out their remit.
Are you joking?

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secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:46 pm
Pat_Bee wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:40 pm
Board get a free pass from me on this, they screw up a lot but actual on field performance is out their remit.
Are you joking?
Nah bro, 100% serious like everything I post.

The lady chevrons are part of the same shady ZC system but got their job done. Arguably they’re worse off than the men’s set up by being nothing more than a blatant ICC box ticking exercise with the minimum investment the board can get away with.

Nobody was giving credit to the board when Raza was making big hundreds, why should they be getting blamed now when his shot selection cost us the Uganda game?

Uganda’s one rusty old bowling machine from when Idi Amin was chairman of the board isn’t the reason they beat us. Their guys were more pumped up for it and it’s as simple as that. That ain’t ZC’s problem until it is. It’s their problem now Raza’s decision making has cost them some ICC bond notes but it wasn’t their problem when they were looking after him letting him chase his franchise bond notes and missing games to do so.

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You telling me pretty much the same England boys that won the last t20 world cup failed so miserably at the recent World Cup and got beat by West Indies because the ECB has suddenly gone all ZC on them? Nah bro :lol: it’s player mentality and out the board’s hands.

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