Zimbabwe Squad for Sri Lanka

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secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:32 pm
We have 6 schools playing a decent standard of cricket.

Whose fault is that?

Someone will try and blame Raza :lol:
Nah that’s good old Smithy’s fault for setting the infrastructure up in the bad old days. No harm in Raza becoming a PE teacher at some run down school and working his magic though :lol:

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If ZC were so poor, how’ve the lady chevrons managed to boss it but the losers haven’t?!

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Pat_Bee wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:50 pm
If ZC were so poor, how’ve the lady chevrons managed to boss it but the losers haven’t?!
Right so beating Uganda is bossing it now is it? Honestly the reason is just because women's cricket in those countries hasn't quite improved to the same extent their men's teams have but they are getting better. Rwanda beat Zimbabwe at the women's u-19 WC last year.

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In any organisation and particularly in sport the only way you get good results is if you have your house in order and that starts at the top. Laying blame without taking responsibility will just make matters worse and results will continue to be sub standard. In my national sport of AFL I have seen clubs being close to extinction and almost lost forever turn it around and become a power again because of getting the right people involved at the top. It has a flow on effect , you don't need dictators just people doing their jobs properly and professionally. This may not be possible for zim cricket which is sad but until the top of the tree gets itself together then nothing will change. A great culture is a huge necessity for success, without it you are doomed.

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mnelson68 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:18 pm
In any organisation and particularly in sport the only way you get good results is if you have your house in order and that starts at the top. Laying blame without taking responsibility will just make matters worse and results will continue to be sub standard. In my national sport of AFL I have seen clubs being close to extinction and almost lost forever turn it around and become a power again because of getting the right people involved at the top. It has a flow on effect , you don't need dictators just people doing their jobs properly and professionally. This may not be possible for zim cricket which is sad but until the top of the tree gets itself together then nothing will change. A great culture is a huge necessity for success, without it you are doomed.
Afl?
Really?
That has both a salary cap and a rookie draft. That’s why they turn it round
Nrl teams can be slower to improve because they have the salary cap but not the draft
But, You can’t compare this at all
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:22 pm
mnelson68 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:18 pm
In any organisation and particularly in sport the only way you get good results is if you have your house in order and that starts at the top. Laying blame without taking responsibility will just make matters worse and results will continue to be sub standard. In my national sport of AFL I have seen clubs being close to extinction and almost lost forever turn it around and become a power again because of getting the right people involved at the top. It has a flow on effect , you don't need dictators just people doing their jobs properly and professionally. This may not be possible for zim cricket which is sad but until the top of the tree gets itself together then nothing will change. A great culture is a huge necessity for success, without it you are doomed.
Afl?
Really?
That has both a salary cap and a rookie draft. That’s why they turn it round
Nrl teams can be slower to improve because they have the salary cap but not the draft
But, You can’t compare this at all
Not correct , the draft and salary cap is designed to keep the competition even but the very good clubs that are well organised still compete in finals every year without getting the top rated kids. I was more talking about the culture and having the right people in place from the top down. There have been clubs continually getting the best kids year after year and don't improve because they don't get their shit together where it counts most.

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mnelson68 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:41 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:22 pm
mnelson68 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:18 pm
In any organisation and particularly in sport the only way you get good results is if you have your house in order and that starts at the top. Laying blame without taking responsibility will just make matters worse and results will continue to be sub standard. In my national sport of AFL I have seen clubs being close to extinction and almost lost forever turn it around and become a power again because of getting the right people involved at the top. It has a flow on effect , you don't need dictators just people doing their jobs properly and professionally. This may not be possible for zim cricket which is sad but until the top of the tree gets itself together then nothing will change. A great culture is a huge necessity for success, without it you are doomed.
Afl?
Really?
That has both a salary cap and a rookie draft. That’s why they turn it round
Nrl teams can be slower to improve because they have the salary cap but not the draft
But, You can’t compare this at all
Not correct , the draft and salary cap is designed to keep the competition even but the very good clubs that are well organised still compete in finals every year without getting the top rated kids. I was more talking about the culture and having the right people in place from the top down. There have been clubs continually getting the best kids year after year and don't improve because they don't get their shit together where it counts most.
Your point is correct but the example was the worst
Cricinfo profile of the 'James Bond' of cricket:

FULL NAME: Angus James Mackay
BORN: 13 June 1967, Harare
KNOWN AS: Gus Mackay

'The' Gus Mackay.

Hero.
Sportsman.
Artist.
Player.

**
Q. VUSI SIBANDA, WHERE DO YOU HOP?

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:00 pm
mnelson68 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:41 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:22 pm


Afl?
Really?
That has both a salary cap and a rookie draft. That’s why they turn it round
Nrl teams can be slower to improve because they have the salary cap but not the draft
But, You can’t compare this at all
Not correct , the draft and salary cap is designed to keep the competition even but the very good clubs that are well organised still compete in finals every year without getting the top rated kids. I was more talking about the culture and having the right people in place from the top down. There have been clubs continually getting the best kids year after year and don't improve because they don't get their shit together where it counts most.
Your point is correct but the example was the worst
As long as you got my point that's the main thing , the good organisations find a way through adversity.

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Re: Zimbabwe Squad for Sri Lanka

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Don't worry everyone, they've appointed a lawyer who specialises in commercial law to fix all our cricketing problems. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't dare question his pedigree.

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It's a smart system that mr Mukiuhlani is suggesting actually. 'Performance based' contracts? Is he only going to pay them when they win against a full member?

He's going to save an awful lot of money :lol: If he's lucky he may be able to go stretched of 6-12 months at a time without paying anyone. Maybe he can buy himself a few new cars or another farm with the saved money? Or another nice new suit from London at least. His favorite.

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