Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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I’m not sure that ‘take the three best batters out of the team, and then the team isn’t as good!’ Is as groundbreaking a comment as you seem to suggest.

I’d say it’s obvious and also probably obvious for every other team in this tournament too.

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secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:21 am
I’m not sure that ‘take the three best batters out of the team, and then the team isn’t as good!’ Is as groundbreaking a comment as you seem to suggest.

I’d say it’s obvious and also probably obvious for every other team in this tournament too.
No SZ, the point Zimdoggy is making is very valid. Scotland for example can lose McMullen, Berrington, Cross and Munsey... And yet find a Leask, Greaves, Watt giving them those much needed runs.

For Zimbabwe we have Burl and then probably no one. So the responsibility on Ervine, Willo and Sikki is huge which is why it is even more frustrating to see Williams and Sikki play too many risky shots.

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sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:12 am

No SZ, the point Zimdoggy is making is very valid. Scotland for example can lose McMullen, Berrington, Cross and Munsey... And yet find a Leask, Greaves, Watt giving them those much needed runs.

For Zimbabwe we have Burl and then probably no one. So the responsibility on Ervine, Willo and Sikki is huge which is why it is even more frustrating to see Williams and Sikki play too many risky shots.
I agree with SZ, you take the best 3 batsman out of any side and there is likely to be a downturn. But teams can still be competitive without their key players, just like Zimbabwe were v Bangladesh without Ervine, Williams, Blessing & Burl. Or v Australia where they won again without Ervine, Blessing & Chatara.
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jaybro wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:29 am
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:12 am

No SZ, the point Zimdoggy is making is very valid. Scotland for example can lose McMullen, Berrington, Cross and Munsey... And yet find a Leask, Greaves, Watt giving them those much needed runs.

For Zimbabwe we have Burl and then probably no one. So the responsibility on Ervine, Willo and Sikki is huge which is why it is even more frustrating to see Williams and Sikki play too many risky shots.
I agree with SZ, you take the best 3 batsman out of any side and there is likely to be a downturn. But teams can still be competitive without their key players, just like Zimbabwe were v Bangladesh without Ervine, Williams, Blessing & Burl. Or v Australia where they won again without Ervine, Blessing & Chatara.
But it’s not about other teams.
3 good balls and our team is gone.
ALL our runs have come from those 3.
No one has supported them with Burl an exception every now and then.
We are so so fragile and this is going to be incredible pressure on them in a do or die game.

This is the biggest game in 5 years, of which that game 5 years ago they buckled, and we are on very very dangerous ground.

I strongly urge the forum to prepare for the worst but hope for the best.
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Re: Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka | ICC CWC Qualifier | 2nd July 2023

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:04 pm
jaybro wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:29 am
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:12 am

No SZ, the point Zimdoggy is making is very valid. Scotland for example can lose McMullen, Berrington, Cross and Munsey... And yet find a Leask, Greaves, Watt giving them those much needed runs.

For Zimbabwe we have Burl and then probably no one. So the responsibility on Ervine, Willo and Sikki is huge which is why it is even more frustrating to see Williams and Sikki play too many risky shots.
I agree with SZ, you take the best 3 batsman out of any side and there is likely to be a downturn. But teams can still be competitive without their key players, just like Zimbabwe were v Bangladesh without Ervine, Williams, Blessing & Burl. Or v Australia where they won again without Ervine, Blessing & Chatara.
But it’s not about other teams.
3 good balls and our team is gone.
ALL our runs have come from those 3.
No one has supported them with Burl an exception every now and then.
We are so so fragile and this is going to be incredible pressure on them in a do or die game.

This is the biggest game in 5 years, of which that game 5 years ago they buckled, and we are on very very dangerous ground.

I strongly urge the forum to prepare for the worst but hope for the best.
Do people not see that the bowling is a huge problem ? Early wickets is a must but rarely happens because of the inconsistent line and length of the bowlers.

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:04 pm
jaybro wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:29 am
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:12 am

No SZ, the point Zimdoggy is making is very valid. Scotland for example can lose McMullen, Berrington, Cross and Munsey... And yet find a Leask, Greaves, Watt giving them those much needed runs.

For Zimbabwe we have Burl and then probably no one. So the responsibility on Ervine, Willo and Sikki is huge which is why it is even more frustrating to see Williams and Sikki play too many risky shots.
I agree with SZ, you take the best 3 batsman out of any side and there is likely to be a downturn. But teams can still be competitive without their key players, just like Zimbabwe were v Bangladesh without Ervine, Williams, Blessing & Burl. Or v Australia where they won again without Ervine, Blessing & Chatara.
But it’s not about other teams.
3 good balls and our team is gone.
ALL our runs have come from those 3.
No one has supported them with Burl an exception every now and then.
We are so so fragile and this is going to be incredible pressure on them in a do or die game.

This is the biggest game in 5 years, of which that game 5 years ago they buckled, and we are on very very dangerous ground.

I strongly urge the forum to prepare for the worst but hope for the best.

So we have 3 world class batters, another (Burl) who has done well, and another (Gumbie) who has done his job in 5 of the 6 games so far.

So basically there’s one weak link which is Wes.

So basically it is nowhere near as bad as you suggest.

Idk, I think it’s a good thing that Ervine/Williams/Raza are so bloody awesome. I’m not sure why people think it’s bad

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:04 pm
jaybro wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:29 am
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:12 am

No SZ, the point Zimdoggy is making is very valid. Scotland for example can lose McMullen, Berrington, Cross and Munsey... And yet find a Leask, Greaves, Watt giving them those much needed runs.

For Zimbabwe we have Burl and then probably no one. So the responsibility on Ervine, Willo and Sikki is huge which is why it is even more frustrating to see Williams and Sikki play too many risky shots.
I agree with SZ, you take the best 3 batsman out of any side and there is likely to be a downturn. But teams can still be competitive without their key players, just like Zimbabwe were v Bangladesh without Ervine, Williams, Blessing & Burl. Or v Australia where they won again without Ervine, Blessing & Chatara.
But it’s not about other teams.
3 good balls and our team is gone.
ALL our runs have come from those 3.
No one has supported them with Burl an exception every now and then.
We are so so fragile and this is going to be incredible pressure on them in a do or die game.

This is the biggest game in 5 years, of which that game 5 years ago they buckled, and we are on very very dangerous ground.

I strongly urge the forum to prepare for the worst but hope for the best.

I'm sad to say I was right on the money.
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