Race Storm Hits Zim Cricket

[Ming]

...there's now an article on Cricinfo...nothing new, as far as I can see.

Anyhow, contemplating this giant sad shitstorm this pm and how much anger, righteous or not, is clouding judgement and how much vested interest seems to be at stake at all levels, sandwiched between slices of painful unresolved history...whatever angle you seem to look at it, I struggle to find any kind of rationality behind all this. The knights in shining armour seem either dubious or incompetent, so there must be something else.

Then I got thinking...how much is actually at stake for the individuals here? If the underlying motivations are unclear, we can at least look at one fundamental driving factor: cash.

What do Makoni, Campbel, James, Taylor, Streak, Flower and the various actors earn from their activities in Zim cricket? Anyone have any idea - factual or educated guestimate?

[foreignfield]

is that whatever agreement/deal/trade-off Bvute and AC initially came to it was only a truce, not a full-scale peace agreement.

Bayhaus, I suspect this is an error on your part, the quote you attribute to me aren't mine please take care I would hate to lose the great respect I genuinely have for you as a fellow debater if this was a deliberate slip....that aside a commission I think would clear the air if done and done very well with the right motive and fair and clear guidelines with the ultimate aim of not short term grudge matches but ridding the game of all this drivel...

The words were mine ... it sometimes gets complicated when numerous quotes are re-quoted

Good to see Coltart is not hell bent on confrontation. Not sure about Makoni though.

Btw, Makoni's reasoning on the Vusi question takes up a lot of points then raised in this very forum. Are you lurking out there, Givemore?

[bayhaus]

FlowerPowerMy sincerest apologies man!! Very sorry about that. Have taken it out in the original post!

[sloandog]

Hhm = Makoni

[bayhaus]

At least Coltart is willing to back down for the GREATER good of the sport...that to me is a mark of a great man.
If you stick to your guns with no compromise in tone, Cricket is the one that will suffer.

Not a chance! People are seriously cornered and Makoni has MORE damning evidence and Coltart knows it cos he was part and parcel of the bombshell Makoni has. I tell you as much as a war was necessary in Zimbabwe so is it necessary at ZC. Coltart under estimated makoni big time, and he didnt think Makoni would bring it. he has realised that its going to get dirty! And I am sure he is acting on 'orders' from Ac to let die and lets just soften our stance until another opportune time. SA didnt fight a war, they are going to HAVE to for them to be truly liberated, the Mandela sham compromise of walking out of an aprtheid prison and becoming president was a total sham. So putting a blanket over our problems means once it gets a bit hot and people fidget under the blanket we have these things come up. Then we take a new blanket and cover them with it again, then it gets hot again and the cycle continues. It has to end we are all tired of this. Let us a have a Commision!

[Ming]

...Coltart under estimated makoni big time, and he didnt think Makoni would bring it...

Or possible that the Minister has fallen into one very big trap...if so, shocking naiveté from a politician.

[jimbo]

Steve mangongo can till apply for the coach role this is purely a selector issue so makoni should not throw in the racism card to suit his own personal interests. I would want former national players to pick the best teams

[FlowerPower]

FlowerPowerMy sincerest apologies man!! Very sorry about that. Have taken it out in the original post!

Apology accepted. No pound of flesh required.

[bayhaus]

Apology accepted. No pound of flesh required.

Phew cos if you had I was going to have to resort to using the race card, regardless of what race you are...

[zimfan1]

I've kept quite is this thread so far as it just saddens me that once again an area of Zimbabwe is held back from moving forward due to politics which ultimately leads to the race card being played.

Unlike many other country's within Africa and the Middle East who are at civil war, our differences lie in politics with fortunately very little violence.

However I feel that it will be harder for Zimbabwe to move on than country's such as the Congo sand Rawanda, due to the fact that the division in society runs so deep that we will never be able to shake them off, and we are not just talking about the race card.

Makoni is a fine example of a Zimbabwean who cannot let go off the past, and till we learn to do this no area of Zimbabwe be it sport, education or politics will be able to move forward.